Will we impeach him this time?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by newo, Sep 28, 2019.

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  1. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    You find that amusing. That a total sleazeball--horrible, corrupt and stupid--occupies the presidency and nobody can do anything about it because enough people like yourself are willing to enable it. I expect another term of this, and it won't end well for any of us. That includes you.
     
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  2. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I doubt that the Senate will. They will minimize everything.
     
  3. Piney

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    Remembering when financial aid was "withheld" from New Orleans after the Katrina huricaine. People yelled: Predjuce
    Then huricaine Sandy hit us in New Jersey. When aid was "withheld" we realised it was burecratic incompetence not any bad faith.

    Suspect that the delay in aid to Ukraine was of the same nature.
     
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  4. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    What choice do we have?
     
  5. With like 8,000 members nationwide, and most of them sporting a felony or other compromising pedigree, I seriously doubt the KKK will be a problem. Seriously, how many KKK lawyers are out there? And who makes and sells all the KKK crap? Robes, sashes, pointy hats and all that khaki? For such a tiny market, they're probably on Etsy.
     
  6. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Racism plays a huge role, and racists comprehend the meaning of someone calling them Nazis, whether they think of themselves as such or not. Either the republican party attracts people of color, or they are forever to be branded a racist party by definition. Fuck all the wannabe lawyers debating the definition, you are white people, the rest of the country opposes. Go debate the issue with the Neo-Nazis among you. I'm sure you can agree to disagree with yourselves, but you are still white people the rest of the country opposes.
     
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  7. I don't agree Woolee. The only genuine white racism (none of this microaggression whining please) we see these days is swiftly tamped down. Can you name a klan leader of any rank or notoriety? Who are the klan lobbyists in Washington? And most of the racism hoaxes, have NOT been perpetrated by white people (imagine that).

    For the most part the whole subject of "racism" in the US is a smokescreen to keep other issues out of the public purview. An example, why is Uranium One still allowed to ship unprocessed ore out of the US?

    I wonder if the Beave concurs.
     
  8. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I was already telling VG, you may have read my post, but the other day Lindsey Graham was being a douchenozzle saying the House was like a "zoo". He said it like 3 times or something within maybe 2 minutes, if that. The first time I thought it sounded bad but could easily have been a mistake, because aren't the women of color super in the foreground right now? I don't think he forgot about "the squad". So, the first time he says that it's likely a slip of the tongue... the third time? I don't know, but it sounded just totally tone deaf and unaware.

    I don't think it's on purpose, but it made me wonder where his head is at. That comment was off color. Maybe it made sense if you're a politician...
     
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  9. Seems more like Graham lacks imagination. I've never understood where anyone associates a zoo with issues of race. It's about people acting like animals, not looking like them. Either way, it's a childish association, but Graham has been a simpleton for many years. What fails him the most is that he actually thinks he's being clever. That's why he tried to ride it 3 times.
     
  10. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Of all the many valid reasons for considering Lindsay Graham a douchnozzle, I don't think his calling the House of Representatives a "zoo" is one of them. According to Webster's, one established meaning of "zoo" is "a place, situation, or group marked by crowding, confusion, or unrestrained behavior The convention was a zoo." I think that's the sense in which Graham was using the term. There comes a point at which denunciations of "racist" language becomes self-satirical. For example, in church we had a discussion over whether the term "cotton pickin" is racist. There's some association with the history of slavery, but in my part of the country, lots of white folks pick cotton, and I think the term has lost any clear association with race. At least one of our prominent white multimillionaires started his career picking cotton. This takes me back to the nuns with rulers who warned us not to say "golly"ecause that's a contraction for God Almighty and to avoid "darn", since that's somehow a derivative of damn. Then there's "niggardly"--a legitimate word of Scandanavian origin that happens to sound like another word of definitely racist meaning.
    In 1999, an aide to the mayor of Washington, D.C., was forced to resign for using the term (meaning stingy) with reference to the budget.

    Now about that word douchnozzle, is that sexist?
     
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  11. The House is a mess, though, with people trying their best to create laws. It's much more streamlined in the Senate, where Republicans just take money from lobbyists and do whatever the special interest groups say.
     
  12. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Isnt the assumption you are making about what zoo refers to in itself racist though?
     
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  13. soulcompromise

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    I think so, but I can't be sure.

    It could be that it's just me that thinks it's a reference to the squad too. But I think when there are prominent people of color there is a certain amount of discretion desirable with that.
     
  14. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    Racism doesn't require you be a member of the KKK, nor am I calling half the country racists, merely stating the obvious, that the republican party is the racist party today and led by racists.
     
  15. Yea, I get you now. And it's just not true. Racism in the US, particularly from white Americans has been declining for decades. You actually have to go around looking for it (or create racist hoaxes) to keep the discussion alive. The only reason the decline is not more obvious is because the way racism is defined is a constantly moving goal post. The core of that of course is that ALL white people are to be defined as racists so that all of the ways racism is defined, will pertain specifically to them.

    The whole precedent set by all of this is itself pure racism (except that racism against people for being white doesn't officially exist).
     
  16. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    You've made a category error, the republican party does not represent all white people, but it most certainly is the lily white party of choice. You can claim that a lily white party is not a racist party all you want, but these are the same people who have imprisoned black men at 7 times the rates of whites, these are the politicians begging their white constituents to make babies. These are the people who have gerrymandered the vote and shredded the constitution, and these are the people who elected Donald Duck with his Neo-Nazis agenda. Split semantic hairs all you want, you can no doubt claim explicit racism is now uncommon, but race has figured prominently in surveys as a reason for voting republican.

    The country could not be more divided, and the fact it is divided along racial lines is nothing new. These assholes hate the idea of a black or female president, and the idea of an atheist is even more disturbing to them. You can pretty much follow every fucking election in the US by simply drawing lines for race and religion. If Bush had not destroyed the entire economy, there is no way in hell Obama could have been elected.
     
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    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    Amen
     
  19. stormountainman

    stormountainman Soy Un Truckero

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    No, Trump ordered it withheld just a few days before that call. It looks like a negotiate and manipulate tool.
     
  20. The sheer irony of this!
     
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