windows vista just screamed "help me" & makes random crazy noises

apart from some tough annoyances, like VBscript, Linuz is way superior. think about your computer experience without viruses and antiviruses. another pain in the ass is when you have a real old install (like mine, installed in 1999? 2000 ? i have to check, dont remember) and you come at the point that your core libraries like glibc are outdated . kernel upgrading is trivial but reinstalling THAT is a daunting task. another thing, if your distro dies you wont find binary packages, so in order to install stuff you have to use source tarballs and compile them. a pleasant exception: the OpenOffice suite, a quality replacement of MS office. the installer still works on old systems.

 

cool 1999-2000 which distro are you running jagerhans?....

 

Times like this I'm glad I'm deaf. LOL This thread has cracked me up. Sorry you're having problems though. Ummm... I'm gonna have to go with too many trips possibly being the cause though.

I've heard Vista sucks. I'm a Mac user myself... and due to the words of a very knowledgable friend, when XP is no longer viable I might be changing my desktop (other computer currently using XP) over to Linux.

 

mandrake 8.1 , messed up with a lot of kernel upgrades... and stuff.

anyway, here the exact date , i exaggerated a bit: 17/9/2001, but right before, 2000 i think i had mandrake 8 (I installed the 8.1 onto it) and before that ... corel linux, my very first distro. definitely not a prestigious one, but, with mdk i've spent my "linux childhood" . on an old machine downstairs , a P200, not-MMX , I use slackware 9.

 

I see....
I started with debian potato in 2002 and slackware 10.0 after that....

 

i'll stick with os x

 

jagerhans, where did you come from?

you should try Fedora Core 6 if you ever want to get rid of any libs that may be annoying. if you need to install anything at all its a simple 'yum install programname', and 'yum update' keeps everything in check.

its great to have another linux user here. that is amazing that you still have mandrake 8.1 after so long. to be honest, i still have a pentium 133 sitting in my basement with redhat 7 on it. i dont use it though. the 2.4.xx kernels are really fast on old machines. i use 2.6.19 on my 2.3Ghz machine though. just wondering, do you have a wireless card with your 2.4 kernel?

 

aaaah redhat...............popped my cherry on redhat

 

Actually I keep coming back to the fact - sorry to Linux Fans everywhere - that I cannot for the life of me see why anyone would run a linux desktop - I think Linux is a fantastic server operating system but just a bit too hobbyist as a desktop environment - its like youre really talking to people in the big wide world who havent got a clue how to switch a computer on and yet they have been in the home environment for the better part of 25 years. Youre talking about people who go to work and operate microsoft desktops so they wanna go home and operate the same thing - Linux people just have to accept they will never NEVER win the desktop market but they probably will win the entire server market. Microsoft is dumb for dumb people thats why they make great desktops - Linux is for tech-heads - thats why its a great server

 

I would say linux for the desktops and freebsd/openbsd for servers many companies are going to switch to redhat, or suse in the near future
instead of upgrading to vista....

 

linux has no 'market' because it is free. linux is just the temporary or precursor for our next generation of desktops. we will need a new graphical manager though because one day, there will be so many viruses that they will create library conflicts in the virus scanners they require and it will be to inefficient to use a virus scanner on windows anyway.

Mac will have the market soon and then comes "NeoNix" or "NeOS". look at linux as the beta version of the future desktop and anyone can be a beta tester for free. currently we are on Linux kernel 2.6 and Windows didnt have a release until 3.1. so, maybe about the time of Linux kernel 3.1 or 4 you will see Nix as numero uno. of coarse, by then it wont be called Linux anymore.

generating the future

 

you want to know ? because I am sick and tired of a system that periodically crashes , that needs reinstalls for viruses or just plain no apparent reason and that grows slower and slower with time. I had to use a new XP machine recently and the fucking thing , when using a given application , self rebooted every 10 minutes. not just plain application crash: all the system went down, I tried another machine, more RAM, and that time it crashed every 20 minutes, no reboot this time. i had to deal with that shit for a month. with linux this never happens, its stable, does not make me lose time, runs fast like the first day i installed it and plus its free.
about the desktop conquering issue, well who gives a fuck. same thing for what other people do. i couldnt care less. i want to use a computer, not conquer the world.
your remarks mean nothing, man.

 

well you know... i hate reinstalling systems . I keep saying I have to upgrade to something newer, but until i am not forced to do it its unlikely...
no wireless cards. i first upgraded the kernel because i needed USB, not supported in 2.4.9 (dont remember well) . then I installed the next ones just while I was honing down the kernel for my needs. now it runs all right. you know, i'm no software fetishist , i just want the work done with minimal harassment, and safety.

 

minimalist? hehe