wish i could smoke right now

no, its just long. simple enough though. but then again, i'd also read about that elsewhere once or twice, i just hadn't seen it referred to as QWISO. but when you say it, the phrase "quick wash" sounds familiar. i dunno though, i'm a little high, and really tired.

so heres what i'm curious about...if you want something quick and something high quality, why not use a clean-testing solvent such as butane, hexane, naptha, etc.? i've always been told these types of solvents are far more efficient for extracting thc, far more selective than alcohol in not removing the chlorophyll and natural waxes and other junk parts of the plant, and that the increased volatility helps assist in a swift drying process (provided you have ample ventilation and fresh air, and take proper safety precautions)

i would think if you used the QWISO method you'd have to repeat it a few times to make sure you got all the goodies, but that would probably counter the benefit of the so-called quick wash

 

aha!! you caught me, i forgot something, the very first step after cutting the leaves and such off the branches is "washing" the leaves in water, as thc isn't water soluble, it takes out much of the chlorophyll and a good bit of the other impurities. After this step is when you dry, crumble, freeze, strain, evaporate, scrape, smoke.

I've never heard of using the hexane, naptha, etc. But i don't do the butane or (bho) method simply because its super volatile (not really a problem with proper ventilation and general smarts) and i've seen tons of people try it and mess up and get a shitty taste or fuck up and have to trash the whole lot....with the isopropyl you get pretty damn quality and its very hard to screw it up....

But if you were to do it proper, the best way to go would be some bubble bags, hands down. The pre-manufactured bubble bags are kinda spendy, but there is a DIY thread on another forum, just have to find it, and you can make them for easily half the price and they work just as good. I just haven't gotten around to makin them yet.

But i promise, i've done the QWISO method quite a few times and have gotten pretty quality hash oil, as hard as it is to believe when using isopropyl....

 

so when you wash the pot in water, should you use warm water, to make sure you dont lose some of the trichs bubble-hash style?

i made some ISO oil once, but it came out all dark from extended soaking, and indeed it was a bit harsh but i didnt mind the taste at all, despite all the junk in it

got me high as all freaking hell, too, but it lost potency very quickly for some reason. one day it was the most up, energetic, pleasant daytime high there is, the day after the next it was nearly unsmokable. i never did figure out what ruined it.

pure butane, hexane, petroleum ether, and the like, will evaporate entirely and leave nothing behind. because all thats in it is the very volatile substance which evaporates away so quickly.

if good quality solvent is used, there -should- be no taste left, but then i've not had it made this way.

but a good way for a layman to test the quality of the solvent is to put some in a glass dish by itself and let it evaporate. the dish should be clear glass, spot and stain free, and ideally without any scratches or other blemishes. if the solvent evaporates completely without a trace, no smell, no residue of any sort, no discoloration of the glass, NOTHING, then it should be clean enough to use without any bad taste, so long as it is 100% evaporated out of the finished product. substances such as gasoline or paint thinner have a ton of chemical impurities and additives, and are no good for making hash oil or doing ANY kind of extraction resulting eventually in a consumable product, regardless of how the product is specifically consumed. butane/hexane/petroleum ether/etc. are suitable for hash oil, HBWR/MG seed extracts, and a lot of other uses.

ugh. i wish i could sleep. i get on the computer and i'm tired. i go upstairs and i am in a place i'm not used to, in a dusty storage room. the sounds are way different than at my apt. and my allergies from the dust! its awful. can't sleep up there....think i'll take the recliner in the computer room for a try.

 

i usually "wash" in luke-warm water, just warm enough to where it doesn't feel cold at all but not enough to feel extensive heat.

Thats wierd that it lost potency real quick, i usually store mine in a celephane plastic from a cig pack, in a film canister, in the fridge. I've had some up to 2wks stored like that and it didn't lose any potency.....definately give this way a try...i can send you some detailed instructions if you like. (with pics, ill make a pic journal when i do it tomorrow. I'll post it in the hash forum on this site)

 

yes i know all about the testing of butane and the like leaving nothing behind and such.......i just never got into it, for now ill stick to the qwiso......but soon enough im going to be making some bubble bags and that will pretty much be the best way to go, IMHO.

 

well i've heard of people suggesting oil be kept in a fridge, but this was back right after i graduated highschool and was still living at home....er....here. i couldnt very well put it in the fridge. perhaps the heat hurt it, but my friend i just visited in washington state had a vial of oil that she seems to have had a long time, and claims it "destroys you" i didnt smoke any of it because there was good nug, but it was made from a ton of lousy pot (its very weak, tastes like hay, rolls and smokes just like a cigarette and even stays lit like one...allegedly mexican, but i dunno, might just be called that cause its lousy)

it apparently works amazingly well, and is kept unrefridgerated. i've had hashish before, and did not need to keep that refridgerated, either. and of course you dont need to keep pot refridgerated.

i'm thinking of, once i'm close to being done with my first grow, ordering an oil pipe online and making some oil with the leaves instead of hashish. i would think a strong solvent would be better at getting all the THC out of the trim than seiving, or even a bubble bag

 

I see your point for sure, and it really is safe to do the volatile extraction with butane and the such if you have half a brain. So im sure you'll have no problems. I just have a huge obsession with bubble hash from a bubble bag and to be honest, i've never had a high/taste like it so im sold. But until i get around to making some or even just saying screw it and buying some, i'mma stick to this qwiso as it is truly potent....even without resin/trichrome laden leaves......i'll post the pic with a report as it gets done and smokeable in the hash section.....im telling you, you should try it before you knock it But the bho would still be an excellent option and probably offer you a better/cleaner high......

 

^^^^compared to isopropyl anyway