Women and their games

Not everyone needs/wants/desires/strives for companionship, and that mentality/attitude does give the impression of unavailability. As for Kok, and PR, and others.....they close themselves off due to the anticipation of poor character. We all have to cut a lot of slack to others until it's determined if their bad behavior is habitual.

 

Sure they anticipate bad character perhaps. But that isn't nec a bad thing.
Sometimes its a valuable skill.

The reality is that some people aren't worth the time of day. Its good to be able to spot that upfront.

The question is, how accurate is the initial perception. I think mine is pretty accurate. My weakness is that I give people a "benefit of the doubt" to some..when really I know they dont deserve.

 

Self-proclaimed "nice guys" are usually only being nice to try and get sex. Which means you're not nice at all, and you are the one playing games.

Be yourself all the time. Not just pretending to be interested in the same things as her for a few days and then giving up because she didn't fall on her back with her legs in the air.

It is okay to have your own interests, and to not agree on everything. Women are okay with that. We aren't looking for guys to shop with, we have girlfriends for that.

Here is all you need to be:
Consistent
Faithful
Honest, but don't be a dick if she likes different music than you. I'm pretty sure you don't want to wear the same clothes as her either, so it's ok if she has different tastes. The thing is to be able to respect each others tastes. If she's blaring music in the car that you hate, and she knows it, she's not being considerate.

You are still not going to get every girl you want, because nobody is all things to all people.
Find someone compatible with you.

I've been with the same man 18 years. He likes sports, country music, and war movies, which I hate, but don't go on about. I have my own interests that he doesn't enjoy because people need time to themselves, and we give each other that.

Sorry for the novel

 

Well said.

/end thread

 

So by the same reasoning, if he decides to behave like a shit, does that mean his intentions are "noble".

Some guys are nice, because they believe in being nice- to girls they find attractive and to girls they consider to look like absolute monstrous pigs as well. Everyone.

I've always thought that people who behave like devious, sinister dickheads, will eventually get all the same shit back at them. And I think I've seen that alot.

And as for sex, I think its vastly overplayed as a commodity to be traded. Most of us dont find it at all hard to find a girl we consider to be attractive enough. The harder part is a girl who's hot enough, interesting/fun enough etc, AND has values. And thats where it gets messier occasionally.

 

Well said.

/thread open again

 

Yes, some guys are genuinely nice people, who get along well with everyone.

And some are just pretending to be what they consider to be nice, because they are trying to get a girl. They think they have to be a certain way for a girl to like them, and are afraid that being themselves is not enough.
When they don't win that girl, they go back to being themselves, and then blame the girl for playing games.

 

There’s one thing all guys (Good, Bad, & Evil) have in common ; we all want to get into your panties :2thumbsup:

Hotwater

 

My initial perception is accurate as well. Yet, humanity is still obligated to cut slack because, bottom line, people have the right to have bad character. All of us will be guilty of it at one time or another.

The anticipation of bad behavior driven by conjured up agenda is just a suspicious mindset, and not constructive when attempting to widen your world with new people of the opposite gender.

 

^ I'm sorry but it really is a social commodity thing yo. There's no self-proclaimed-nice-to-get-in-your-pants-shit going on here! It's harder to puff your chest out, and look like a high demand low supply confident man when you put others before you and are kind to everyone.

And woman's intiution SUCKS at picking up on a good guy. Keen scares 'em away. Nice IS viewed as weak. Don't fucking lie to me lol this shit is real as rice.

I WILL start being selective whoa gets my full attention. Y'all seemed to take it for granted when it was given to everyone. (and I mean guys too actually)

Also people shy away from real and like light a lot of times too, so the shit has been backfiring on me like a motherfrucker.

 

It would be a pleasure to know you. Yet, I might not connect well with you. That says NOTHING about you, and says NOTHING about me. It's the state of knowing we all have many layers.

 

You’re right in their desire to be loved women are more reckless than we are; and as a guy we’ll pretty much fuck anything

Hotwater

 

I don't know if you meant it this way, but for me i'm sure it is:

-anticipation of bad behavior from girls, or women, ala this thread
-but also anticipation of my character being perceived as bad behavior

'cuz I can be keen, socially fast & jumping the gun, deep connection type person. It's a lot of shit to take on right away. One conversation with me and you can probably tell I'm the opposite of some aloof distant nigga who will throw you bread crumbs along the way to bag you -- even if that's what I want as a man.

With all that, I do have my strenghts. So long as I give people their personal space 'till I see potential I'm interested in -- no way a girl has the balls to take interest, then nonchalantly hang around me. I'm not a subtle person by any means


--but I also kind of have to find/convince someone to play slightly outside the system, if you know exactly what I mean.

 

A mainstream generic uncreative blase society doesn't know what to do with unconventional. Yet, there's many unconventional people out there. It takes probing. My best friend is the most covered-up character, that only I have broke into.

 

What do you mean 'most covered up character?" he hides it well? He was a mainstream fella that you corrupted? We can go off topic for a bit. Could be healthy. :sifone:

 

male or female, gay or straight, ALL gender based behaviors, are phoney bulls shit put-ons. generally motivated by ego.

 

Its a she. And she is mainstream, being very domestic, significantly involved in the schools, long time married, crafty, mother, materialistic, and showy. That's all I saw about her for years and years. Then a few times drunk, some probing, difference of opinion, and some intelligence, I've peeled off the outside persona to discover all sorts of things she has parceled away. This includes multiple affairs, being adopted, family history, marital secrets, and eventually even a pass at me.

Anyway, the point is.....what is anticipated is far different then the reality....and the reality changes as each layer is revealed.

 

You are not describing nice guys then. But manipulative guys. Big difference.

 

'Self-proclaimed'

 

I, myself, am not a nice guy or bad guy. I don't pigeon hole myself. I am just...me, lost somewhere in the endless sea of grey (grey area) that eludes some, or even many. Nor do I want to be a nice guy or bad boy. But what she describes seems to be manipulative.