Women as Sexual Predators

do you have those statistics?

 

Most woman on man rape probly don't involve an erect penis nor ass-rape but forced cunnilingus. Think of it, cunnilingus is the preferred way of cumming or the easiest so that is most likely to occur during female raping male. She does not need a hard penis for that so an erect penis is irrelevant.

It's not impossible, a girl can trick a man into taking her home, she puts him in bonds, real bonds, sits on his face.
As she may be rough she adds a little more control by threatening to knock out his teeth if he bites her. Then she proceeds to fuck his face with no concern about the amount of force she's using. Ever fuckface your bf and he tells you you're going too rough, well it doesn't matter with a real victim and she can just to town on him, mashing into his face until she gets the most amazing orgasm .

 

I would love to hear the statistics on this subject. I only know that out of all the news reports that I've seen and read about, the men serve time, and the women usually get off with probation. Regardless, each sex should have the same punishment for the crime.

 

Big headlines in the paper today:

http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060405/NEWS03/604050370/1006

 

Well thats just terrible, but what can we do? the fact is that the entire society as a whole is there to blame for this. Turn on your TV and you will see your favorite shows filled with sad stories. I read one sentence on this thread where some one says that he likes to get raped ha! , now is that true? no , but he is curious like that cat that died(from "curiosity killed the cat"- not funny? sucks for you because it is funny for me ).

Anyway, there should be a better way to educate these people and maybe there is a better way of educating a possible sexual predator so that he/she never comes even close to hurting another human being- this scenario would be similar to stopping mentally ill people from comitting suicide.

And it can be possible to identify them before they commit crimes , latest research in this matter is showing some evidence that the minds of sexual predators have a different chemistry compared to the minds of "regular" people, So! the society can help by donating us chemists and neurologists some money and we can figure out a possible solution that will make everyone happy (or else!).

 

this is what i found on murder...not sexual predators.

"ome related to abuse have become a part of historical record. The U.S. Justice Department’s 1994 Bureau of Justice Special Report indicated that in the category of murders of spouses, women represented 41 percent of killers.1 Women accounted for only 10 percent of defendants charged with all murders; however, women accounted for more than 40 percent of the defendants for all spousal homicides. Many reports of U.S. criminal sentencing demonstrate that wives who kill their husbands are acquitted in 12.9 percent of cases, while husbands who kill their wives are acquitted in only 1.4 percent of cases. Additionally, a 1988 U.S. Justice Department study found men frequently receive an average sentence of 17 years for killing their spouses, vs. a six-year sentence for the woman who kills her husband.

Probation for female spousal killers is granted to approximately 16 percent, while only 1.6 percent for males may be granted probation.4 Considerations were given to women who had been provoked, verbally assaulted and/or threatened prior to them committing homicide."



perhaps an explanation of why?


The woman who kills due to being battered is the most notorious among female spousal/intimate killers. According to Alt and Wells, “Statistics suggest many women who kill have been victims of battering, and that 50 percent to 85 percent of homicides by women were committed in self-defense (or at least that was the reason furnished by the woman).” Since 1974, violent crimes committed by men against women in the United States have increased 50 percent, and as many as 90 percent of the women in prison today for killing men are there due to being abused by the men they had killed. This motive was self-reported most frequently. Alt and Wells postulate whether or not women are so cunning as to utilize this particular motive of abuse in order to get away with murder."



http://www.forensicnursemag.com/articles/391lifedeath.html



I don't know where Maggie gets her statistics, but these clearly show that women are not serving more time for murder...

 

I doubt most of them are "cunning" just sick of being raped and beaten up. Some womyn have been abused their entire lives, and really feel they have NO other option. If there were more programs for abused womyn (more than just a few weeks of "therapy" and job training) I think the rate would go down. The schools should have more "abuse prevention" programs as well, as most abused womyn, start their first "romatic" abusive relationship in Jr High.

THE most dangerous time in a battered womyn's life is the year after she leaves her batterer, this is the time she is most likely to be beaten the worst and most likely to be murdered.

 

Unless there is a record of it either through police reports or recent bruises then that defense should be next to useless.

 

Megara, you are saying that under the assumption that
a- the women is not too scared to report abuse (current or prior)
b- abuse is just physical. Emotional violence, intimidation, threatening to kill, threatening harm to children/pets of victim- ALL abuse.

I understand that the referenced post WAS about physcial abuse, but self defense (in my opinion) could be very applicable.

 

hrmm? I'm a bit confused what you're asking

i'm just saying unless there are fresh bruises(god knows where old ones could be from, i have a ton) or a police history to corroborate a claim of abuse, i dont think that defense should be considered very much.

I understand that a lot of women dont report abuse for whatever reason(fear most likely), but allowing such an excuse that cannot be verified tarnishes the justice of our legal system. Men need to have their rights protected too.

 

I am saying that lack of physical marks should NOT discredit a self defense testimony!
What if a guy said for weeks "I will kill you" but never hit the woman previously? If someone is threatening to KILL you, you may be a but scared to call the cops- therefor no police record. Systematic emotional abuse IS still abuse and it IS self defense if the woman feels she is in danger.
That is like saying a woman MUST have semen in her to prove she was sexually assaulted.
I am to trying otbe confrontational, but this "no bruise= no self defense" would make many women victims twice- once by abuse and twice by people saying the abuse didn't happen

 

The problem is how can you prove this happened? Are we merely to believe a woman at face value? Convenient when the guy who could deny it is dead.

Again, if she feels she is in danger she has an obligation to run. She cant take abuse for 30 years and just one day snap and kill him and expect it not to be murder. Unless she is in immediate danger and she is under threat of serious bodily harm..she does not have the justification to kill another person.

When a person is convicted they are to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Now lets take this rape scenario. No bruising, no semen, no nothing that marks a guy to this woman charging rape.

It is simply her saying "He raped me" and him saying "i did not."

Do you think thats enough evidence to warrant sending someone away to jail for? I don't.

Our legal system is based on evidence. How can we fairly and honestly punish someone when there is no evidence?

Dont get me wrong, there is a place for verbal abuse in the legal system. Either someone else witnesses it OR it is used as circumstantial evidence and is one part of a case. Not the whole case.

 

So if a woman lives with a guy who might have a few drinks and beat her (never in teh face because that shows!) then a few weeks later threatens her life and she shoots him, she is a murderer?

 

Um. If he's in a drunken rage, hitting her and says "i'm gonna kill you," then she is more than in her right to defend herself.

 

You said it again.
Hitting is not the only form of abuse and should not be treated as such.

I do not disagree with you that the accused abuser and the abused deserve representation though.
I would hate to be put in jail for something I didn't do just because someone said I did it. Because anyone can accuse you of anything.

 

It all depends on whether the "victim" fears for their life. Also, you can only use as much force as necessary to end a situation. If you can run away, YOU HAVE TO. If a guy says "i'm gonna kill you" and does nothing to put you in physical danger...you cannot walk into the other room, load the gun, come back and kill him. You are obligated to run away.

How do we settle the issue of a he said/she said problem? Do we automatically take the word of the accuser?

 

edited, never fucking mind It'll do no good

 

gotta say though, the woman going back and shooting her abusive husband stirs a great deal of sympathy in me. watching my mother and brothers get the tar beat out of them by my dad sorta kills my passivity. i remember watching my mother, after trying to protect my brother from my drunk dad get beat up drag herself to the bedroom grab a bat and run my dad outta the house after he was done, sitting so smugly on the couch watching tv. fucker. i can see how that fucking rage would just boil and fester and explode. no doubt about it.

 

Yep, but some on this board would require "proof" that he did anything wrong. Sheesh. Some peope have NO idea of the mindwarping that living with an abusive partner or parent can do to you. "Why doesn't she just leave?" Is one of the most idiotic and naive things people can say about abused womyn. IF they knew the mind set of the abuser, his ability to control, his ability to "Be nice" and give her ideas of his changing, his need to totally control her, no matter what, and her FEAR, they wouldn't ask this question.

AND if this were all fair, KC's dad would be in jail. and I'll bet he isn't. WHY? Because contrary to Megara's "men are always the victims" complaints, the abuser RARELY gets put in jail, yet the womyn who feel their ONLY way out, and their ONLY way to protect their children is to harm the abuser OFTEN go to jail.

What a fucked up system.

 

Well, then do we automatically take the word of the accused? How many incidents of abuse actually have witnesses? How many times do the victims make excuses for the abuser? And try to hide any visible evidence because of the shame and stigma involved? Don't say that the victim is obligated to "run away" when you haven't been there. You have know idea what it is like.