Women in Combat

Any informed female should be allowed to volunteer for frontline combat. They are the more vicious sex after all, just ask any mother.
Karen, you have a point and maybe it means the standards for females ln terms of hand to hand combat need to be raised. I taught martial arts to females and worked security of many types with a female partner at my side by choice for decades.

 

I was thinking that you didn't need to have obvious points explained to you. Go back and read the whole post again.

 

I'm a little suspiscous of that one, i'm on my phone so a bit tricky to copy his mug shot photo, but something doesnt quite add up, and the qctual details seem to be scarce.

A drunken tussle in an argument isnt the same as sexual assault and given his position its an easy switch for her to say it was about grabbing her boobs,.

Anyway, look at the mug shot, its not out of the realm of possibility that is was a drunken tussle over something stupid and her claiming it was sexual was an easy way to fuck him over

 

I have read it several times. I really can't imagine what your point was. Rape is a crime, and I personally think that people who commit rape within the military should be tried for treason and potentially executed as traitors to the nation. Even though rape is a huge problem in the military (I don't know how to solve it, I don't know enough about military protocols) the law is still equal in that it is illegal for men to rape women, and for women to rape men (even if the law is not properly enforced currently).

What I was getting at in my post was the fact that I think that it is wrong (discrimination, and a failure to apply equal protection under the law) to say that, in the event of a draft, that I am eligible because I was born with a penis, and you are not eligible because you were born with a vagina. If I can be forced into military service against my will then all able bodied and able minded women of the appropriate ages should be eligible to be forced into service as well. That is what I was talking about, and I don't see how your response makes sense in regard to that.

 

So let me explain it to you the way I would explain it to a child.

Drafting women doesn't create a fair, balanced and equitable situation because enlisted men rape enlisted women, but enlisted women don't rape enlisted men.

Is that goddamn clear enough for you?

 

At this point in our culture women should only be enlisted as volunteers and the fitness bars should be raised not lowered. I have a friend who weighs less than ninty pounds soaking wet who is an Israeli soldier and I accord her the respect due any fighter.

 

Women don't rape? Bullshit.

What is this fixation that you've got with rape? First it was female soldiers are going to get raped by the enemy. Now it's female soldiers are going to be raped by male soldiers. Rape isn't the worst thing that happens in war. People die. What you're saying is that men should be the ones to die, so that women don't get raped.

Which is a false choice anyway. Reducing the rate of rape in the military is a good idea. We should also have women registered for the draft, if men are going to be.

 

So women get the choice and men get the draft. Do you have any justification for your opinion?

You know that your Israeli friend was drafted, right?

 

That has absolutely nothing to do with my post.

 

There was a story in the paper the other day, out of the 8000 women in the aus defense forces only 20 had applied, probably onoy a quarter of them will make it. So kind of a mute point, a half dozen at best.

And I'pl again make the point, although probably get hit over the head, but those half doesnt will be genetic mutants any way, that 0.1% of females closest to males, butcher than 99% pf the male population

So any negativity will just sound like a whole bunch of pussies emasculated cos some chic can bench twice what they can

Yeah, yeah, I know, 0 out of 5 short dudes like this post

 

Hey! I'm a shortie and I love chicks who can bench more than me, lol! :biggrin:

 

I don't think I mentioned anything about men and the draft, that was you. The fact is that in general at least in the eastern half of this country as a result of generations of natural selection and/or cultural preference women tend to be smaller and weaker than the average male. Also from an early age they are trained to a none combative mind set.

 

Another question is, Why is rape such a problem in the military? What are the actual motivations and causes?

 

I do not know, nor do I understand the military protocols that allow this to happen. I honestly think that people who commit rape in the military should be tried for treason.

Consider murder in the military. If a soldier murders another soldier then they have undertaken an action which reduces the fighting ability of the military. That should not be treated as an ordinary murder, it should be treated as treason. I think the same should apply to rape. Maybe if they execute a few rapists it will deter others. I really think they should be considered as traitors to the nation.

 

Motivation? Hard to say, but one of the main causes is the knowledge that arrest, prosecution, and punishment are highly unlikely. Conviction rates for reported rapes in the US military are very low. When anonymous surveys are taken to count unreported rapes, the numbers show that most women don't think it is a good idea to report an attack. They have no confidence in the system that justice will be done.

This is a failure of leadership. Officers are supposed to be teaching recruits to think and act like a team, working together to defeat their enemy, whoever that happens to be, not attacking people on their own side. Until the leaders learn how to effectively deal with the women who are already in the US military, the last thing we need to be doing is letting the numbers increase. That will only make the problem bigger.

Just last week, a Senate committee was holding hearings on the problem, and one of the generals made a comment implying that he didn't think it was that big of a deal. No wonder the people below him are not making any progress with reforms! Why are top officers not embarrassed to be running such an undisciplined organization?

If they ever get the rape conviction rates up to a reasonable percentage, maybe then psychologists can study them and figure out what motivated them to do what they did. Studying something like a 2% sample isn't going to tell us much.

I wonder how big of a problem this is in other countries. I never see any statistics from anywhere other than the US. If other countries are doing a better job managing this problem, then we should be trying to understand what they are doing differently.

And if this trend is reversed in the future, it could lead to a more violent society in general; the last thing any sane person would want. Our culture is already too violent. We need more peaceful people everywhere. eace:

 

Karen, the women in the service now are there as volunteers and if they are going to choose this career they need to have a proper mind set and focus for their own good.

The attitude of the officers toward the troops that you speak of is the sort of thing that led to the practice of 'fraging' in nam.

I doubt we'll live to see a non-violent military in our lifetime in the mean time self defense has value.

 

I understand this, but it's the only career path in the free world that anybody can ever be drafted into under any circumstances, so we have to take that into consideration when we look at its problems. Is it morally right to consider forcing a group of people into an organization that is known to have a severe problem with treating that particular group the same as everybody else? I say no.

I have no idea what that is, but I'm guessing it's something very bad.

 

Certain officers with callus disregard for the health of those serving under them were termanally discharged with extreme prejudice....by self same enlisted men....

 

I truly can't add anything intelligent about women in combat, fortunately I've never even been close to war.
But.
Had I been in the military, and Karen be my superior officer... I know she could pull any twisted, kinky, weird-ass shit on me she wanted, I'd never file a complaint.

:sunny:

 

When the percentage of women in the military increases, I wonder if someday, something similar will start happening to unconvicted rapists. Most people would rather not take justice into their own hands, but when the people in charge don't do their jobs...

That's different. You know I would have been up for the consensual stuff. :reddevil: