Worst President of US

I'm just waiting on SEIU to unionize the military.

 

clinton but not for the sexual relations

 

NAFTA's a good enough reason, Obama's next...

 

So you are saying NAFTA is worse than Monkeyboy's removal of US freedoms through the "Patriot" act and his near destruction of the US economy(it may still be the complete destruction of it).

 

Why is Jimmy Carter on this list?

 

20% interest rates, 70% taxes on some forms of income, Iran, Soviet arms buildup.

 

Why wouldn't Jimmy Carter be on the list. If he didn't have Gerald Ford come before his reputation would be so much worse.

 

What positive effect did Ford ( who was no prize ) have on Carter. At least Carter had alot of good environmental ideas that would have put us where we are now with alternative fuels 20 years ago.

 

The fact Ford sucked so much made nearly anyone that came after him look better.

One policy doesn't make a good president.

Bush actually had a great policy on Africa, and despite wanting abstinence teaching greatly increased the funding for HIV and malaria prevention to Africa.

Doesn't mean he was a good president though.

 

Well we can at least agree about Ford. I was pretty young when Jimmy was president but I believe it all depends on what part of the political spectrum you stand. My father, a staunch conservative hated him, on the other hand my uncle, a equally staunch liberal thinks he was the best president of his lifetime. I lean liberal but dont have much of a opinion on him, although like I said earlier if the US followed both his environmental and energy policies we would be much better off now.

 

Not by a long shot, though I can empathize with those who do, but Monkeyboy remains at the top of the list.

I'm just frustrated that Obama's "reform" has been such a joke, though I shudder to think of what might've happened under McCain.

 

So you want people to go bankrupt because they work full time but still can't afford health insurance. The fact almost no one can afford health insurance if it's not being provided by their employer. So basically fuck you, got mine

 

annnnd

 

I'm surprised Hoover isn't mentioned here.
I wouldn't necessarily say he was the WORST,
But I know lots of people who would disagree.

 

Hoover was like the Jimmy Carter of the 20's, great man(see his work in food relief post WW1 and ect) that could not deal with the circumstances dealt to him

 

I agree.
The depression of a country is alot to put on it's ruler.
Also, people fail to realize the changes he started to make near the last few months of his presidency - that Roosevelt later carried on and got all the credit.

People will still argue though that Hoovers money went in the wrong hands and to the wrong people, (private corporations). All the public was really concerned about was getting a job! It didn't help that "traditional" Hoover didn't believe in government jobs, after being changed to rags into riches himself - he believed everyone should work it out themselves

I mean, yeah, you get yourself in a pickle, be independent and work it out. But if your whole nation is in the same pickle? Come' on. lol

 

Hoover did in fact do a lot to try to help people but he had serious qualms over exactly what the government could directly do in terms of providing jobs. Whether he was right or not who knows, the tariffs imposed by all the world's nations as things started to go to shit destroyed any chance of any recovery.

But still, no one expected what happened to happened. Hoover took office at the twilight of the roaring 20's, things started to cool, but unlike most recessions you can literally pin point the day everything went to crap all at once in 1929.

The bonus army didn't help either, or MacArthur being an arrogant bastard, to quote:

Which is more ironic in the fact Roosevelt also refused to pay the bonus army but was overridden by congress.

 

Still, he continued to believe in John Smith's philosophy of "He shall not work shall not eat".
No matter how roaring were the times, they were booming with modernization. Hoover was strictly a traditionalist.
Hoover's idea of the government lending jobs DID come into play during the last of his presidency, and it was very good of him to finally make the connection. However, like the saying goes for him, he was "too late".
Not too late to help America, but too late to make his debut as the successor.

 

i dont know about worst but william henry hairrison was a big fucking let down

 

How conveniently we forget that Bush caused the destruction, not Obama. The Obama administration is now stuck with the task of cleaning it up, with a congress full of republican obstructionists who stand in the way of reform while offering no solutions.

You might change your tune after filing bankruptcy because of a life threatening illness you had no control over preventing and couldn't afford to treat, even if you had health insurance and they denied your claim. Basic health care should be a civil right like it is in every other developed country.

I agree, so let's stop bailing out wall street like bush did.

 

BARACK OBAMA!

Nah, I have no idea, perhaps Nixon? I am not American so I don't really know.

I do sympathize with Bush Jr mind. He was so stupid I cannot even begin to comprehend that a world would believe he was some sort of anti-Christ. Their are some bad people in America, like any other country, but these people are never your president.