Would YOU vote for RON PAUL

Say no to the status quo

Ron Paul 2012 yea!

 

It seems to me that when it comes to helping the middle class, it's just the same old discredited trickle-down economics that has not been shown to work.

 

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Ron Paul is leading the Iowa polls today, due to a lot of support from young people. How about that?

 

Damn right Ron Paul 2012....i think he is going to win and i am voting for him. I know he won't make this country better in four years but at least this could be a start. Show the media and Big businesses that we will not stand for this type of shit.

Also someone said he had no plan on saving the environment and you could not be more wrong. He has many plans to protect and save the environment. He wants to follow the Constitution and you cannot destroy peoples property.

I am voting for him because, he been saying the same message for 30+ years. he stands true by what he says and he wants to give us our personal civil liberties back and our freedom is free and should be given to us.

 

Do tell. I'm that guy. I've been asking anyone to tell me these plans and no one has even come close. Please explain how Ron Paul will protect the environment.

 

They keep saying something about "property rights" but that doesn't fly in this corporate world we live in. So I'm all ears on this too......

 

My problem with Ron Paul is he seems like too much of an idealogue. The problems with idealogues is their ideology is more important than how policy affects people on a practical level. His views on freedom and economics seem too black and white and simplistic to me. I do agree with his views on foreign policy though. That's my impression of him anyway. He seems like another one of these guys that'll, overnight, do drastic things like end social security, end medicaid, end the postal service, end social welfate, etc etc. I don't agree with inter-generational welfare or funding welfare queens (whether they be corporations or real individuals), but being an absolutist on such issues and how society is structured can be really dangerous.

I just don't want to have to guard all my shit with a gun and have to shoot people or risk getting shot during food riots. He does seem pretty consistent about his beliefs, though, and he's not a hypocrite like a lot of Republicans. That doesn't mean I agree with his views though. If it comes between him and Obama, though, I may vote for him. I'm just afraid that if he wins the only things he'll be able to get passed is stuff like lowered taxes for corporations and cutting food stamps. As far as all the socially liberal things people support him for, like ending corporate personhood or legalizing pot, he probably won't get any of that passed.

 

I saw him and Joe Rogan on Jay Leno the other night and I do like what he stands with the exception of abortion rights. I think that is a woman's personal choice and not the governments choice to make. Everything else he stands for seems pretty sensible. However, he is a republican and for that he must BURN!

 

So, would he refund all that money so many people have paid in all these years, or just steal it?

 

He's personally pro-life, but his stance is still that the states make the decisions on that.

And he's actually a Libertarian, but he's running as a Republican because the system's rigged and third parties never win or get coverage. Technically he's a true conservative. And parties shouldn't even matter, because Obama's a Democrat, but he's not much different than Bush. The other Republican candidates aren't offering anything different, either. They're all in their own little world, offering small tweaks and more wars instead of going out of their way and offering real change.

He plans to fulfill older people's Social Security benefits, unlike some of the other candidates, and allow people 25 or younger to opt out. Eventually he hopes the system will die out as more people opt out and the free market offers more choices.

He doesn't plan to end the Federal Reserve overnight, either. He'd bring the troops home ASAP, though.

 

One of the things he wants to do to help the environment is make it legal to grow hemp.

Hemp restores poor soils, can be used to make alternative fuel, paper, plastic, clothes, food and has been used to clean up waste from nuclear accidents. It would help to stop deforestation because it is used to make paper. Plus it would help to make new jobs because of the new industries that would be built around it.

Here is a video of him talking about the epa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bchw_1qsBg"]Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 4/5/10: Government and Gasoline - YouTube

 

I don't buy the "settle it in the courts" route for environmental control..... If some mega buck corporation came and dumped toxic waste in my back yard and I tried to sue them I would get laughed out of court, still have toxic waste in my back yard, lawyers fees and court costs that I can't afford....... I guess I shouldn't worry about that because the toxic waste would just kill me before anybody could do anything about the money I owe anyways, huh?

Or I could just plant hemp...... Yeah.... Right!

 

Yeah, hemp is stronger than tree paper, requires less land, less resources, and less time to grow. For people looking for a green environment, this is the perfect solution. Technology replacing books is silly. God already gave us the perfect source for paper, and it's called hemp.

 

OMG, you can't be serious. Or maybe you've smoked a lot of it. I mean, I'm in favor of hemp, but if you think it would make a big difference, you're nuts.

 

Actually.... Hemp, which shouldn't really be confused with pot, would make a huge difference. It's a superior fiber plant and has many other uses.... none of which are smoking it. The plant bred for fiber production has very little if any THC value. But the whole bit about improving soil, fast growth, saving trees from paper mills, making better paper/cloth/rope, even improving air quality are true. It used to be mandatory that American farmers grew a certain % of their land in hemp before the prohibition on the plant.

 

Our economy is in such peril and even for that reason alone I'm would for Ron Paul. He has the most common sense policies for the most part, and isn't in bed with big corporations. That's why they try so hard to censor him...ex: the other candidates go way over yet are not reprimanded for it. My brother spent some time talking to him before a speech, he said he is the kindest, most compassionate man he has ever met...he was blown away. He's also very intelligent (how many of the others are?). I say hell yes elect him and while he can't fix it all alone we should KEEP ON ELECTING politicians who are also pro-civil rights/economy/peace/freedom.etc. Why not end voting for these corporate bed wetters??? I mean the EPA and companies like Monsanto are tied like two dogs in heat! Wake up now America or you'll wake up next to them!

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

 

That's the best reason I've heard to vote for Ron Paul. You might be right, all things considered.

EXCEPT THAT if you don't regulate large corporations, don't they win in the end? Don't they end up dominating the little guy? I think it's better to reform the EPA. Get rid of all the revolving door arrangements and so forth. Don't let industry write the legislation.

 

The corporations lobby congress to make regulations that are designed primarily to take out their competition the small business people are their competition.
Monsanto is trying to take out the organic food market so it can put it's poison GMO crops every where and charge farmers more for seeds. India and Europe are working on banning GMO crops. Europe pays fines because they will not allow American foods to come in to their countries because of our heavy production of GMO corn which is in so many of our foods now..

 

He sounds better than anyone else at this point,but I'm favoring Rocky Anderson and his new Justice party. Of course he doesn't stand a chance because he's speaking TOO much sense.