WTF is with this latest load of nonsense?

This metro stuff is total bs. I'm a man and proud of it, I wouldn't have it any other way. Women and men are equals, different, but equals. Men do not need to be more like women to be better. Male-bashing is also a crock of crap.

 

gaaaaahhhh....I just can't wait for the day when we all viewed first as an individual - a person rather than one-part-of-a-gendered-group.

Until then though, I think what people should strive for is their own autonomy; their own power over themselves.

A woman can wear heels and lipstick and still be a feminist and her friend can have unshaven armpits and never touch makeup and still be beautiful.

Likewise, I think a man can spend time each morning artfully sculpting a hairdo with his favourite gel and still be manly while his friend can relax in front of the rugby with a beer and still be ‘evolved’

I think that, if you are not hurting anyone (including yourself) or, at the very least, minimizing the amount of harm you cause, then whatever feels right is what you 'should' be doing.

Metrosexual, macho, whatever, a crackpot article and current fashions can go fuck off - men, women, everyone in between - we are all individuals and shouldn't have to subscribe to any preconceived notions of what’s 'appropriate' behavior for our gender.

 

I agree totally.

 

That's exactly what I'm always saying. The barriers between human beings need to be broken down, not built up with a bunch of bigoted bullshit.

 

Ok this is my view on most "newspapers".

1)They aint really "news "papers at all.
Generally owned by the idle ( 100 th generation inheritance) rich , theyre nothing more than propaganda sheets designed to brainwash and mislead.Ultimately to bring the populance into unquestioning obedience.

They brainwash by asking getting u to ask questions to yourself.
eg "are you a conservative or liberal"?
Omitting to remind you that both are actually strands of the right wing of political "ideology".
So if u say "Im not liberal" they chime back "oh youre half or fully conservative".

Anyway this article is trying to relegate all perspectives and personalities to the realms of fashion and "the era of the day".
Notice how it says "we will never return to the 1950s patriarchy".
So anything u agree with in the 1950s era implies you are "uncool" ie "unreasonable" , "old fashioned"
and so "will never get a good looking wife".

A man who is subservient at home will be subservient to the Establishment.
Thats what this whole crap is about.

 

:agree: I love this post.

 

Wow. This thread has been going on for nearly a year and a half!

 

Jeez only in the USA are they still having a debate on feminist terms -
the rest of the world has gone beyond that Bullsh*t to post-feminism
feminism is a dead idea - dead because it got what it set out to achieve and anyone who is still arguing about it missed the last 15 years of where the societal arguments went to

 

Interesting idea....but I don't think we are quite in a post-feminist stage yet. I would say it's more Third Wave feminism and until certain issues revolving around the feminism/femininity clash are resolved you can't be in a post-feminist state.

but anyway...that's a little off topic...

 

I think this is all stupid, if you wanna act "like a women" then do it if not then dont! If you gf or wife or whomever doesnt like you not beiunf feminane tell them to go to h***! Its so silly, as for me I dunno what u mean by acting like a "wpmen" or a "man" people call me a tomboy but how the hell is girl supposed to act, it sounds like metrosexul attitude that we all hate so much is derived from the steriotypes (however its spell) of what a women or a man should be.

 

I'll tell you what really gets on my wick, what really fucks me off - camp men.

 

Whats that?

 

Camp men have an awfully queer way of speaking and their use of body language is especially feminine. Not all camp men are gay, and not all gay men are camp. But for Christ's sake, the whole camp image is an embarrassment to the word 'male'.

 

I think people can be whoever they wish to be. It doesn't bother me.

 

That's...pretty small minded. I think there are many, many, many ways to be 'male' (as well as many, many, many ways to be 'female' or cross-gendered) and none of them are "an embarrassment."

Gender is an amazingly broad, amazingly fluid and changing thing (or construct or idea or whatever) and you can't just have one way to perform it. As long as camp men are happy with themselves then you shouldn't care how they act - it won't make any (rational) people think any less of you or of men in general.

 

Well, whatever, I just can't be doing with campness. It irritates me a hell of a lot. Call me small minded but I'll tell you to fuck off as you cannot make a statement about my judgement in people or mental capacity over one issue.

 

dude...I just did.

I think it's funny that your signature tells people to open their minds. Take your own advice...

 

I don't believe in acting "male" or "female" so I think people can act however they wish. I just don't like when it becomes a fad because you have the minority acting that way because they think it's cool or it's "in" at the time. That sux cuz then the majority get acused of following a fad when that's just the way they've always been...*sigh* Anywho, act wht u feel in ur heart, not how people find exceptable.

 

depends how you read the situation to me..

i dont have any desire to act camp, or even buy into the 'metrosexual' thing.. BUT...

where is the line drawn? i like to take care of myself, i use a moisturiser after shaving, i like to think i'm sensetive, and i simply am not an aggressive person in any way. However, i use moisturiser after shaving because my skin gets dry and ichy if i dont, i dont mind getting my hands dirty, i just like to make sure they are clean afterwards, and if i'm not aggressive, i'm simply not aggressive - being so would be trying to be something i'm not.

paramount on my priorities in a relationship is that the woman is as happy as possible, if this means i have to do things she likes, so be it..

beating my chest and trying to behave all macho isn't manly at all to me, just primitive.

 

I can't take the whole camp image seriously (especially 'that' tone of voice).
Truth is, I wouldn't know where to start.
I'm not one of those that'd give them verbal abuse about it;
I'd just walk away and leave them be.
I can't see the harm in that.