My father firmly believes that "The leftists" and the "democrats" will ruin this country if they get voted in. Hmmmm....Can you not fucking see what the government has done to this country?? People who watch too much television and listen to too much Rush Limbaugh are so fucking brainwashed it's scary.
What network did you watch it on? I watched it on CBS, and they have had a pannel of uncommited voters sit in on every debate. They talk to them after the debate is over. I was waiting to see what they thought about McCain being such an asshole, and they all actually liked him! They said McCain came out with his gloves on and brought definitive plans to the table, while Obama was on the defensive and seemed to stray from the topics. I was like "wtf?" I'm not a supporter of either, but McCain just looked like an assclown last night. IMO there is no way in hell he can win this election.
My dad is the same way, and my grandparents. My grandfather is all about his Rush Limbaugh books on tape. When I talk about politics with any of them, I cant do it because they are so brainwashed they all recite the same fox news talking points. Didn't Rush Limbaugh say pot smokers and dealers deserve the death penalty, then he got caught with several thousand oxycontins and fake scripts? What the fuck is wrong with everyone?
Oh your dad is correct in a sense... the left will ruin the country- almost as badly as the right has. The whole perception that either represents an alternative is a big part of the problem. There's brainwashing on both ends of the issue- generally locking people into the self perpetuating assumption that they are our only options. Neither side will give the country back to the middle class.
I hope he doesn't, and I am not an obama follower either but I would much prefer him at this point. Not sure about the network though it was on at a friends house. But afterward there was some kind of panel like you mentioned, and they all said obama was the winner. I don't see how anyone can respect mccain with his cheap shots and bad attitude.
You think that's bad? My mom gets these stupid chain emails from all her friends, and she is now convinced that Obama is the AntiChrist. What's funny though, is you have never seem someone be so passive about the AntiChrist about to win an election.
I see beyond the left-right paradigm, and Im sure stalk does too. I think what he was getting at is how his father sees things that way. That is exactly how it is with mine and it's frustrating. Everything can be blamed on 'the liberals' or 'democrats'.
That's my point exactly. Obama might not be the best choice for the job either, but for Christ's sake, at least he can string together intelligent responses and stick to the topic without going out on some half-baked lame anecdote that is probably made up anyways. Another deterrant that really turns me off from McCain is his running mate. She's so bad I feel I don't even need to explain why. At any rate, as dumb as people generally tend to be, I will still be extremely suprised if McCain wins.
It wasn't my assumption that stalk (or anyone else) couldn't see past that. I was just pointing out that you get the same basic shit from the other side of the aisle, thereby personifying captain obvious. We can spend our energy being exasperated with staunch "conservatives" (as though that were an apt label) and their narrow mindset but much the same can be found on the other side. My opinion is that there is very little difference between the two because the candidates that bob to the surface of both cesspools run election campaigns that are funded by the very same big business interests that are looting the middle class and taking down the economy.
Don't even get me started. If you want to believe your vote counts, and that voting isn't rigged, go for it... atriot:
You are right about that, apparently he graduated in the bottom of his class for a reason. And the fact that obama is such a good speaker makes him look even worse. I'm not even sure what to think about his running mate, but I can't believe she actually wants to teach creationism in schools. I went to a christian school as a kid, and just.. wow. They really should leave science and reasoning as the highest truth we know, and leave spirituality to the individual.