yeah, a very basic question, but...

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by nitemarehippygirl, Jul 16, 2004.

  1. eat_some_LSD

    eat_some_LSD Senior Member

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    *lmfao*

    I'm pretty sure that cannabis ("marijuana") is made up of over 400 (yes, FOUR-HUNDRED chemicals), while LSD is only one, isolated chemical.

    LSD is, physically, much safer than cannabis due to the fact that you're only consuming, at most, 400 micrograms of material at a time, and with cannabis you need to SMOKE atleast a gram or so to feel ANYTHING.

    LSD is also something you don't get addicted to, in the general sense; you might WANT to go back and eat more acid, but you have to wait around 1 week for your tolerance to wear off...it's also such a profound and life-altering experience that one tends to only trip everyonce in awhile. ;) Unlike with cannabis, where the user can literally smoke from morning to night and STILL get high.
     
  2. EddieV1984

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    That has got to be the dumbest thing ive ever seen anyone say about acid. People do the same thing with aspirin. They take it everyday, its a chemical....Are they addicted to it, is it hurting them? NO.
     
  3. Maes

    Maes Senior Member

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    mine is just a piece of advice for people wise enough to distinguish Aspirin from Acid.

    you got only one chance to prove or refute it.
    go for it mate...
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    The dangers with lsd are all in the mind. There is no evidence at all to suggest it harms the body in any way. The best advice if you are trying it for the first time, is to pay attention to what Timothy Leary called 'set & setting'

    Set - ie how is your head set? Full of positive expectation, feeling stress free, ready to soar into the unknown? Good. What Leary meant is to BE INFORMED before you take it, and to be in a good frame of mind.
    Setting - Where you take it. Better to be somewhere where you arene't going to be disturbed etc. A place where you can control your environment, where you can relax, have music or quiet as like and so on.......
    One more thing - its always good to have someone else around when you take acid - preferably someone you trust, who has had the experience themself.
    This is the way to maximize your experience, and ensure it is positive and useful.
     
  5. pinocchio

    pinocchio Banned

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    I agree completely.
    good advice!
    :)
     
  6. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    LSD has no addiction potential and it is known to not cause brain damage. Stop listening to the government.
     
  7. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    And you've got one chance to site your information on the addiction potential and brain damaging aspects of LSD.

    Go for it mate...
     
  8. eat_some_LSD

    eat_some_LSD Senior Member

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    Here, "Mate"...

    10,000 people A YEAR die from Apsirin overdose; a chemical that, sold over the counter, is even available to MINORS. Something that is commonly recommend by doctors to patients for the relief of pain causes 10,000 people A YEAR to DIE.

    Whilst LSD, on the otherhand, has been available regularly for over 40 years and has yet (in recorded history) to cause even a mere injury due to physical side-effects.

    Find an autopsy that says otherwise, and I might just kiss your ass. ;)
     
  9. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    LSD is not addictive.

    I know many who have used it for years, and not a single one who 'slipped into it'

    Smoking, on the other hand, even of pure weed can certainly damage the cells of the body -
     
  10. Maes

    Maes Senior Member

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    our metabolism is very complicated but the main principle thing is bio-chemistry.Vitamins, amino acids, metals and etc. get into chemical reaction and we live and die. Now there are some neutral chemicals found in the nature,in plants or organic things lets say. And there are some that are hardcore inorganic,synthetic and manufactured like plastics and etc.

    Weed may cause brain damage since every affect (action) bears a reaction. But it does not contain additives that are put in it to make it more profitable. Because just like tomatoes, it is a plant grown out of the soil. (this does not mean that no plant in nature kills you or makes you addicted) Altough marijuana is a very controversial issue and there are endless debates, there are actually researches that prove it is LESS DESTRUCTIVE then cigarettes and alcohol. There is an independent country where it is legal.

    But I think there isnt a single scientist that says LSD is less harmful or not addictive. Thinking the whole world is against one true idea is a sorry ass idée fixe

    LSD sellers would always want to sell more LSD if they wanna stay in business. And this business is in laboratories.

    I have a friend who used to do LSD a few years ago. today he says that he was so sure of himself that he would never ever try anything "worse" than it when he first started doing LSD.
    Today,he's lost some more weight and he says "my day starts with the question: How do i get pills and where today?"

    He is way smarter than most of the people in this forum and recently he's been approached by a game designing company to compose musics for a game. He's studying Law at the university,in his last year and knows that he's "melting his brain" day by day but cant help it. My bro. who is a doctor suggested he'd take professional aid. He's planning to do so after the graduation exams.

    Another friend who'd once been in the states when we were at hi-skool, had done LSD. After completing a hi-skool in Seattle he went NY to study at some College. Last year he came. We talked and he said that now he was into Cocaine.

    This proves the chemical power of LSD. According to your example, Heroin is even less destructive than marijuana and acid.

    400 chemicals in marijuana claim is a hot bullshit. Every thing is made up of chemicals. What I say is ORGANIC chemicals. As long as you grow your own shit, noone can put additives in it.

    As for Aspirin, it's not a counter example for 2 reasons:

    1) You dont know how many people's life it saves who has heart diseases. Every man with hi-cholesterol over the age of 50 is advised to take an Aspirin a day to lower the blood pressure

    2) Do you know how many people die when lighting their Christmas trees?
    Can you relate it to justify LSD consumption? It's the same non-sense relation. You can give any example for mis-treatment to "chemical blah blah death" since everything in our body is chemical.

    Even if you still think LSD is not destructive, it may the best bridge to other deadly drugs.

    Da Fuck i dont care mate. go for it as i said before, I respect. My advice is for the takers and there might be people doing so as long as this post is here.
     
  11. pinocchio

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    :rolleyes: .........

    That's gotta be one of the stupidest posts I've read here and I've read some pretty ignorant ones. I'm not going to argue that LSD's not addictive because people die while lighting X-mas trees. Alot of people that use drugs, use ANY drugs. If someone's addicted to p-killers, the lsd probably kept him from being worse off than he is now. It opens your eyes. You should try it.
     
  12. Maes

    Maes Senior Member

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    soon, everything will start to sound stupid :H
     
  13. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Maes -
    I'd like to know what exactly you think 'lsd dealers' are putting into their acid to make it go further! And really, there is nothing they could put in there, given that the dose required is microscopic.

    When I say that smoking cannabis could damage the cells if smoked, I do not mean the cells of the brain, but the throat and respiratiory system. It may be less harmful than tobacco, but still, smoking per se must be bad. Nonetheless, I do smoke myself!

    If you know people that have had negative experiences as you describe, I very much doubt it is attributable to LSD on the physical level. But of course, there will always be those who like to do everything to excess....

    I would just like to repeat my point from an earlier post that with acid, the dangers are of a purely psychological nature - an ill prepared or an imbalanced individual may experience negative reactions, a bad trip. But one can't blame the agent - its the screwed up nature of so many individuals, coupled with foolish or casual lsd use which is to blame.

    Not only that, but lsd was used during the 1950's and early 60's, before the 'panic' swept the world that led to it being made illegal, to treat many people suffering from psychiatric and behavioural difficulties, including heroin addiction and alchoholism. The results were very promising, and in recent years, psychiatrists and experimental psychologists have once again obtained permission , at least in the US, to take up the serious research once again.
    See this link if you are interested

    http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/lsdmenu.htm

    On this site you will also find serious and informed pieces on many aspect of lsd use and other psychedelics.
     
  14. modestsmoker

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    when you do some drugs its your decision to try others. its not the drugs fault

    as for acid being addictive

    its the same as watching a good movie

    your not addicted to it, its just so cool you want to see it again
     
  15. whiterabbit

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    you are the dumbest fuck i've ever talked to.
     
  16. loverofthewoods

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    that comment there tells me you know absoulutely nothing about those who manufacture acid. the states are blessed with an organization that is commited to putting out clean cheap acid because they believe they are doing the work of god...these people understand the power and teh awakening that can come with the drug and they wish to spread the beauty they themselves feel. whether or not you think them crazy for it, it is still the truth. there is nothing added to get people addicted and buy more as you put it...its not about money, it never was. this organization (im talking about the family btw...where pretty much all our acid comes from) has a 3cent rule...they never sell to a fellow family member for more than 3cents a hit of what they payed for.


    never try anything chemical??? everything is chemicals...you and i are made up of chemicals...your thc is a chemical.

    anyway...your lies and misinformation arent appreciated here...there is enough of them surrounding lsd as it is.
     
  17. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    Do you even know where LSD comes from? Erogat seeds or summat like that, it's extracted and then diluted (I believe, I'm not a chemist, so I wouldn't know for sure).

    A newer study on the effects on the brain from marijuana have proven that it does not kill brain cells; neither does LSD. Also, it is schedule I in America; which means it has high potential for abuse and has no registered medical use (even though it's medicinally legal in 9 states, go figure).

    Care to find me an actual quote?

    So you have imaginary friends? Or do your friends have imaginary problems? Thats psychological addiction; habit forming. Something that can be easily overcome with a little willpower/confidence.

    What? He's going to see a quack just because he can't seperate himself fromt he drug on his own? How can your friend be smarter than most of the people in this forum if he can't even fight the urge to use LSD?

    That's funny, because I know people who tried heroin before even smoking tobacco or drinking. Saying that a gateway theory exists with LSD just exposes you ignorance.

    That's an interesting assumption; but because it requires less LSD to experience the full effects, that suggests that you would need to use it far less. You must have misread, as he never said that marijuana and LSD were less destructive than heroin; he stated that marijuana had 399 more chemicals than LSD.

    There are indeed 400 chemicals in marijuana. Granted, many of them do nothing, but that's still 399 more than LSD.

    Likewise, do you know how many of them are part of the 10,000 that are killed by Aspirin per year?

    No, but relating deaths from LSD (which has only one chemical) use to those caused by Aspirin (which, I believe, contains only a handful of chemicals) says how safe it is, chemically.

    WHAT!? LSD? Deadly? HAH! You have a better chance of being hit by a torpedo launched from a ship that was sunk during the attack on Pearl Harber while your in the Middle East than dying from LSD use. The only deaths LSD has caused were people that were careless enough to wander about while they were unable to think straight and happened to get hit by a car or something along those lines. Besides, you can't say someone is more likely to try a "harder" drug after using LSD than after they fell on their head.
     
  18. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    Oh, and I forgot to mention: 100,000 people die a year from adverse reactions to prescription drugs, taking them exactly as ordered by the doctor (just look at a picture of toxic epidermes necrolsous (sp?), or TEN *shudders*); yet only 5,000 people die a year from RESPONSIBLE drug use. So, now I ask you, which is safer?
     
  19. whiterabbit

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    you are so stupid, people who are into drugs are usually into 1 or 2 thigns that are there favorite and thats all they do so i think what your saying about acid being some kind of a gateway drug is rediculous, people usually try other drugs because their trying to find one they like, have you ever noticed potheads and trippers don't like coc and heroin and shit like that and visa versa. I think you have no idea what your talking about, your probably some freaking narc communist pig coming in here trying to get a few more drones to walk around and think just like you do. Go away, it's people like you who give acid such a bad rap man. People like you meaning people who have no fucking idea of what their talking about.
     
  20. Ocean Byrd

    Ocean Byrd Artificial Energy

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    It's so true that I couldn't help but laugh at Maes's ignorance.
     

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