You know why stoners are viewed badly by the rest of the world?

And now some goof 20 something is trying to reiterate some points that he argued with a year ago?

 

You're completely ignoring the cultural aspect that alcohol (beer, to be more specific) wielded at one time, and still does, to some extent. Moreover, your failure to acknowledge the notion that habitual users of marijuana commonly adopt a specific lifestyle that is inherently defiant towards what law-makers and [indeed] the general Western population are after (i.e. economic growth) is euphemistically myopic.

My 2 cents: Marijuana remains illegal in the U.S. because the advocates for its legalization remain largely unimportant in the sphere(s) of that aforementioned legality; not one sect or even remotely impressive number of individuals has demonstrated anything beyond glorified selfishness in an attempt to prove that a large sum of the tax payers' money ought to go towards tedious legislation.

It's really not that difficult to differentiate yourselves from politicians. A word of advice: petty comparisons and futile days in which everyone gets high does nothing for anyone; your argument is (or at least ought to be) that the legalization of marijuana could make our lives slightly better, so why not work towards doing so in the interim that exists between that actually happening? Too lazy? Too scared that sacrificing an hour or two of your precious time at the expense of your community might not come to fruition in your lifetime? Then you're probably screwed and aren't cut out to make a difference anyhow.

 

if your gonna revive an old thread, at least put a little more content in your post then just bashing me

 

digitaldj, my point is, is that youre an arrogant prick.
who the FUCK do you think you are, to be stereotyping everyone and claiming that youre above it all.
shut the FUCk up and get a fucking life, if all you have to do is coming on a forum and tell other epople "how to live" I dont need your advice thank you very much.

some people....!

 

"Tell him, girlfriend!"

:lol:

 

Where did all the peace love and understanding you preach go to?

 

Honestly- i agree with digital to some extent. I really think the people who are abusing weed and creating their whole personality around weed- you know trying to be seen as a pothead who doesn't care or whatever are perpetuating society's negative thoughts of marijuana users. The thing we gotta realize is that these crazy potheads who flaunt it, skip school etc are maybe 10% of the marijuana smoking nation, BUT all that society can see is this loud majority, so SOCIETY is to blame for piling all of us into that category with the lazy, senceless bongheads. Thats where digital is wrong though, it's not OUR fault...it's society's fault for mislabeling us.

 

*yawn...

at least bring somthing to the table other then childish name calling, clearly i've hit a spot with you, as you probably fall into one of the cattegories I laied out earlier in the thread, as well i really hope you took the time to read every single post other then my first one and try to call me out on it

Really, how am i not in the position to give advice? in my entire smoking career, which i'm sure dwarfs your own by many years, i've never once put myself in a position to be arrested, charged, nor even suspected of any illegal activity, that goes for parents or the law and regardless of living in a lax society like I do, if i lived anywhere else i'm sure it would be the same, BECAUSE I HAVE RESPECT FOR THE LEAF NIGGA!

Seeing this thread pop up put a smile on my face, because i forgot how on the first page, the majority if the people actually agreed with my points, and seeing as my first post in the thread was nothing short of a rambling mess, I think it's great that people can see the points I made as valid, and perhaps take somthing with them from it, you on the other hand cant offer anything but name calling, and trying to break down my person

like BraveSirRubin said, wheres the love you preach brotha? after all, isnt this whole world just about love, peace, flowers, and the leaf? :redface:

 

whether or not you'd like to admit.. its the fact that schools are always under the eye of society.. especially since Colombine(sp?) and all these other school shootings.. whether or not drug related.. which 99% of them are not.. its the fact that society has this fixed eye on that demographic... always has.. so it is these kids resposibility to take charge and not be typical stoner stereotypes.. feel free to promote the fact that you wish marijuana was legal.. but also have the knowledge to back your ass up.. and by knowledge i don't mean what some friends brother thats a pharmacist told you or whatever the fuck.. READ and LEARN.. and suprise.. you can do this in SCHOOL! almost any speech or paper i had to do on random subjects were on marijuana.. i studied the hell out of it.. read everything i could possibly get my hands on.. from all points of view.. and by the way.. i didnt walk around school constantly wearing bob marly smoking weed shirts or anything marijuana related.. not that i didnt want people to know.. its just that i wasn't exploiting something to "look cool" or "take it to the man" fuck the man.. the man had nothing to do with me when i was in highschool and the "man" still doesnt effect me in my personal life because through my eyes.. there is no "man" i live life to my own rules while respecting others.. i have my marijuana T-shirts.. but there is a time and a place for such attire.. and school or protests are not those places

btw DDJ.. i totally agree with what you're saying

 

Everyones gotta chill. Whether you wanna take dj's advise or not, you need to respect it. I for one agree with him, but the ones who dont will most likely flipping burgers. You guys dont understand how powerful drugs are, ive witnessed it in my life in ways nobody esle can, thats why im trying to explain to you guys not get used to livin the life of waking up..blazing..eating..shiting..sleeping..then rotating. Thats how it all starts. You think junkies plan to become junkies? No. They just live the lifestyle they grew up with, and when you guys grow up with a similair lifestyle your putting yourselves at risk. Im not saying dont smoke weed, im saying like dj said..respect the leaf nigga. Get your priorities straight. Life isnt about smoking weed, or doing drugs. Life is about becoming the best you can be with what your givin in life, so maybe one day you can look back at all the bullshit you went through and think to yourself "i made it through life, i won this game, i completed it with no regrets", rather than digging yourself deeper in the pit of shit you dug for yourself.

Idk about any of you, but when im old and rustin..i wanna look back at all the fucked up shit i had to deal with, and be happy of what i made myself FROM all of that shit ive been brought into the world with.

 

DJ can be a fucking prick sometimes, and smart on other times.

I personally feel DJ, that you could express your views a little less aggressivley. I've insulted you myself in the past. Hell, about 15 minutes ago in another thread.

However, he's right. Too many people get high too much. I was one of them. I try not to be anymore. There are a lot of people who smoke pot and it has no affect on there lives. There are also some who'd rather get high and play videogames, etc.

I think DJ generalized a bit too much. Yes there are a lot of burnouts who shame the name of pot activism, but that's not only with pot. There are environmentalists who'd like to express there message by burning down a logging company, or peace activists who start riots.

There are always some bad apples.

I used to prefer getting high than doing homework, and my grades dropped. So did a lot of things, like my cash flow.

Some people can smoke pot and still thrive in this world, while others don't. Some have perfected moderation while others don't think smoking too much is a big deal.

I feel though that there are a lot of other things that contribute to a poor stoner image. The media for one, whenever I watch a news report relating to pot or salvia, when it's done the anchors always add a bit of bias. "Oh boy, that's scary", shit like that. Tradition is also an issue. Those in power grew up thinking it was a dangerous drug, and they'll always think that.

I've grown up to question everything I hear. Mostly from the mainstream media, as a lot of us do.

A lot of us don't like it when we hear "Pot eats hole in your brains" and other shit like that, because most of the time it's bullshit. But it also goes the other way around.

question EVERYTHING you hear. Whether it's from mainstream media, erowid.org or even here. A lot of the time when someone says something it's because they heard it from someone else. Then it spreads like wildfire and it becomes common knowledge and everyone soon believes it to be true. That cannot always be the case.

A lot of seem and also think they know what they're talking about, but a lot of people also have bias.

The fight for pot activism is, and will be for a while, an uphill battle. The first time a pot activist opens his mouth, he/she is heard. Making sure what comes out is key to this fight.

We are all the face of marijuana. Let's make sure it's well groomed and portrayed properly, or we'll get nowhere.

 

maan...its cause he's from vancouver..you know how they are.

but really, funny to see a pothead bash on other potheads . just like white people bash on white people..or black people on black people. or humans on humans in general.. its just pointless, because you aren't the one to judge.

i'm a pothead i guess..i've skipped school to smoke pot a few times, went to school ripped plently. grades have dropped, not because of weed, but because i've learned to take the American Metal Rod out of my ass and relaxed a bit . at the end of the day, i'll still get into the college i want, and end up making more than enough to be financially happy .

i could care less about some guy from vancouver trying to judge us over the internet personally. you just need to sit down, smoke a blunt, and relax.

People need to learn that you gotta take the pot, and not let it take you! (because if it does it'll send you to vancouver and you'll parish like dj )

 

What does any of this have to do with me being from Vancouver, or me even hating on others for that matter? please elaborate

the whole basis of this thread are people who do not treat marijuana with respect, therefor leaving a negative image of pot users in society.

 

Nothing. Just relax man, its a stoner forum . Maybe www.cnn.com has a place for you to discuss this topic.

 

#1 You should probably watch what you say about Vancouver. It's one of the best places around for weed freedom. Not to mention it's beautiful there. I don't know "how they are" with respect to what you're talking about. Marc Emery, the Prince of Pot, is from Vancouver. Your comment doesn't make sense.

#2 I'm a white guy, and I bash other white people, like Bush, or Harper, or other conservatives. I look down on them. I can judge them because white folk like them have ruined this world.

I cannot speak for black people, but I would assume some well educated black men probably look way down on rappers who love to call women bitches and hoe's, or use the word '******' left and right. See- Crash.


#3 He's not trying to judge EVERYONE. He's just saying some stoners make a bad name for us, like rednecks do for white people, like 'Gansta' rappers do for Black civil rights, etc.

 

sorry, i forgot, the hipforums MJ forum is definatly no place for any sort of educated discussion, maybe if i posted somthing like, "how much better does fried chicken tase when high" or "damn I split my bong water all over my cat" you would feel more obligated to make a post where you actually take time to read the thread, or have an opinion that makes sense.

 

See, sarcasm is fun .

 

Because Carl Sagan is a fucking idiot. Or my dad who is 50 years old and makes 90k a year, yet he smokes more than I do.

 

You didn't read the whole thing did you.

Your father is a prime example of what stoners should aspire to be.

 

I just read the first post, not the 8 pages afterwards.