You think he'll be "captured" just in time for the election?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mynameiskc, Sep 5, 2004.

  1. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Regarding the pipeline:

    The pipeline project was real. It looks embarassing in hindsight that the U.S. was dealing with the Taliban, but it happened. Unocal withdrew from the project in 1998.

    Of course, the U.S. govt and its corporate media don't want people to know about it. I never heard about it in the mainstream media.

    http://www.worldpress.org/specials/pp/pipeline_timeline.htm


    "1996:

    April Taliban announce criteria for awarding contract: The company that starts work first wins. Unocal President John Imle baffled by statement.

    June Unocal says peace is necessary for construction of pipeline, otherwise the project could take years. Bridas officials meet Taliban and say that they are "interested in beginning work in any kind of security situation."

    July Pakistan, Turkmenistan, and Unocal sign new contract extending Unocal's deadline by one year to start project by December 1998. In a policy shift, United Staes says it will not object to Turkmenisatn-Turkey pipeline through Iran.

    August Shell's Alan Parsley meets Niyazov and promises help on Turkmenistan-Turkey pipeline. Taliban say Bridas offer better terms and expect to enter into agreement with them.

    September Turkmenistan opens tenders for oil companies to take up new concessions along the Caspian. Niyazov, 57, has heart operation in Munich—concern grows about his health, and who would replace him should he die. Bridas sells 60 percent of the company's stakes in Latin America to Amoco. The two agree to form a new company to run operations jointly. Taliban delegation in Argentina to discuss pipeline deal with Bridas.

    October Taliban delegation visits Ashkhbad and agrees to set up tripartite commission with Pakistan and Turkmenistan to explore Unocal pipeline project. Centgas Pipeline Ltd. formed in Ashkhabad: Unocal owns 46.5 percent, Delta Oil owns 15 percent,

    Turkmenistan's national gas company owns 7 percent, Itochu Oil owns 6.5 percent, Inpex owns 6.5 percent, Crescent Group owns 3.5 percent, Hyundai Engineering owns 5 percent. Taliban undecided which consortium to join.

    November Taliban in United States to visit Unocal and U.S. State Department officials."
     
  2. whispers

    whispers sweet and sour

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    The U.S. now has foothold in the middle east a base of operations, we are at their front door. The saudis and all the other countries in the region, would dictate on what we could do in their countries. Like launch war planes from Saudi Arabia on other countries in the region, they said no. Not Iraq it is another base of operations a puppet state. We do as we please.

    It is also a warning to all of the other nations at how quickly the U.S. can crush them, if it so chooses.

    Like Germany, Japan, we will occupy Iraq permently. Once the U.S. occupies a country with any strategic value it does not leave.

    So for 200 billion the U.S. has a direct link to its fuel source the middle east, and sent a message to other nations that oppose it . They to can be crushed if so desired.

    As for the Taliban the U.S. did not give a shit as long as it got what it wanted oil. It does not matter who rules. But once they harbored the
    terrorists they pretty much fucked themselves. Had they hunted down the terrorists they would still be in power.

    The Taliban made the mistake of thinking since their members had defeated the Russians (with our help)
    they could do the same with the U.S. They then felt the force of a real super power. It all boils down to picky the wrong side.

    What all comes down too is all of these countries and indivuals are involved in the U.S. game to be top dog. Their all there to be used for our benefit.
     
  3. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    The Taliban was a joke. I don't think I've seen a more jealous group of religious people. I remember about a 6 months before 9/11, the Taliban was blowing up the giant Buddha statues with cannons and dynamite, even after international groups pleaded with them and offered to take the statues away for free. I thought to myself what a warped mentality that group had. It didn't surprise me that they were linked to the 9/11 attack.
     
  4. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Here's an interesting passage:

    http://www.room23.de/2235.html

    The word "jihad" is now used so frequently in the west that most people believe that calls to religious wars are common in Islam. Mamdani notes that this is untrue. Indeed only four times in 1100 years has a religious jihad been used to mobilize Arabs. The last one occurred in 1891 when Muhammad Ahmed led an uprising against British-Turko-Egyptian colonialism in Sudan.

    The U.S. encouraged a new jihad against Soviet atheism. We indoctrinated the Islamic recruits with a hatred of the Soviets and, along with the Pakistani government, taught them how to terrorize and urged them to do so.

    One way was through the education system operated by the Mujahideen. In these centers, many of the textbooks were paid for by the U.S. and written by US-chosen contractors. Even math and science texts contained political messages. One-fourth grade text asked students to solve the following arithmetic question, "The speed of a Kalashnikov bullet is 800 meters per second. If a Russian is at a distance of 3200 meters from a muhahid, and that mujahid aims at the Russian's head, calculate how many seconds it will take for the bullet to strike the Russian in the forehead."
     

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