Young Hippies disappoint me!!!!

Heres my oppion at this early morning hour . some old hippies live on, most have died ! still yet others just matured into something far removed from who the once were. You see we all change ! like our Mother Earth ,season to season. I once was rug rat, then young son, smart ass punk,red neck, Hippie ! then reallity hit me when my 1st Daughter came into my world. There was no place for the Hippie in this world, yeah sure ya try and hang on to the old way for as long as you can . Then the Change has to happen if ya want to feed your new family.
Cut the old freedom flag then change your manor of dress ever so slightly and enter the work force, Change isnt over yet ! you become a great parent they all learn from ya then they leave the nest and soon more change yet . Now ya call yourself Papa. Yeah there lives an young hippie deep in an old mans memory, but believe me what it really amounts to in my oppion is , it was just an erea and its quite likely you missed it. There is no such animal as a young hippie and the old ones are as i said far removed from who they use to be and maybe thats to bad because i dont believe we changed the world enough but rather allowed it to change us. Funny Shit now i'am bumbed out just like yesterday.lol

 

I'm with you. I think that these are hippie forums that encourage free speech, not free speech forums that just happen to be used by hippies and people that call themselves hippies. I think that the latter one "cheapens the gift"..so to speak.
The forums have been inundated with hippy haters and others trying to "trip us up". These guys troll the threads for opportunities to attack the hippy mindset.
For example, one individual recently started a thread with a bunch of inflammatory statements/comparisons of hippies, then moved to another area and wrote a rather wordy piece of introspection seemingly seeking pity (IMO) from the same people he had insulted so outrageously earlier.

 

Ones values should always be challanged.This was a part of the "hippie"culture.

 

Yes, they should.
I hope that what I wrote doesn't come across as some sort of indictment of free speech. I failed to mention that I believe the word "forum" implies free speech. I was just trying to make the point that the "hippy haters" come here to make trouble and expect everyone to just say...."whatever". I'm sure that the majority of us don't go to hate group sites and stir them up. (maybe we should..)

The other point I was trying to make is that these are hippy forums, and people are more than likely going to talk about "hippy things". (if someone wants to brag about how many people they killed [or want to kill].....maybe there are more sympathetic audiences elsewhere....IMO)

 

What better place for hippie haters to get a reaction.Maybe we should go to the hate sites and stir them up.It might do some good.If you want to fight fire you gotta go to the fire.If everybody agreed here all we would be saying is yes.i don't see you as someone who would crush free speech.You seem very open to all.This is a good place for you.

 

Crushing isn't my thing. My thunderous footsteps prevent me from sneaking up on anything I want to crush. I gave it up.

Hey...yes is good though. I love to hear...yes,yes,oooohhhh,yes! (geez..there I go reminiscing again)

 

Lets see who can place this:

"No, that is the great fallacy; the wisdom of old men. They do not grow wise. They grow careful."

 

a hint....the writer lived in Ketchum, Idaho for awhile. There's an elementary school named after him.

 

Your quotes from Ernest

 

thanks to everyone and your comments good,bad,positive and, negitive.this thread served its purpose by getting people to talk about ideas and emotions.as I have read all of the posts from everyone it is clear that the hippy spirit lives on and yes although certain threads are pointless if they some how help others in thier daily life than its worth it.sorry I have not responded sooner to everyone but my internet connection was cut off for a short time as my father just recently had a heartattack and could no longer work so things like the computer where the first to go in order to make ends meet.it is good to be back and hope to talk with everyone who didn't get pissed off at me for this thread soon................ LOVE

 

hey im 16 im a "hippie" and i am extreemly dissapointed to hear your complaints. but may i remind you that hippie is a returning fashion, it cant be expected that all theses young hippies are realy hippies at all. just like in any other culture (emo or punk) the underground will always produce people that truely follow it and there will always be "possers". please dont judge us by those that dont know what they are associating themselves with. the realy young hippies are alive and well. i for one do not do drugs, i listen to the music along with every other type of music you can think of (i love punk rock and jazz), i dress differntly every day, yesterday i had plaid pants and a band shirt on, today i had just plain green shorts on and solid blue shirt, tomarow i will proly have blue jeans with stuff writen on them and a polo shirt, whatever. i associate myself with hippies cuz i love the earth and nature, im an actavist (and actuly know what im talking about), i enjoy the era, and i was raised by one.

so i guess i appologize for the miss understanding of the culture, but those of us who know what it is and what its about are in it for realy so dont forget it.

 

The reason this forum has become so mean spirited is because of the non-stop hate that is being directed towards the president. This is an ugly decade. Because of hatred, not because of Bush.

I'm here because I believe in peace, understanding, and civility between all people. And with the way the left is carrying on the way it is, I see no hope for peace, understanding, or civility until that changes.

 

It's a sad decade because conservatives seem to think non-conservatives are insignificant and stupid. Ironic isn't it.
IMO, your support for peace is questionable because of your robotic dedication to support of the warmongers.
These are HIP forums, not "bush youth" forums. If you're looking for a place with a republican agenda, maybe the NRA has a forum.

Incidently, the non-stop hate (as you call it) in these forums is not just directed at Bush. It's everywhere. Some people here think that "hippie" is just a fashion statement, so they condescend to older hippie types, which creates debate. Conservative people come in and think that everyone will lovingly accept that our civil liberties are being taken away, with creates debate. There is free speech here. You're confusing hate with debate because your "boy" George W is being held accountable. We all expect to be dis-agreed with on something. Get used to it.

 

avoid any one born after 1950 that calls thenselves a hippie. There some exceptions, but by and large there havent bee too very many. if you dont remember people standing on top of the berlin wall, you probably arent a hippie yourself. try not to get pissedf that others are playing at being what they think the 60's were. Go to a rainbow, meet good people.

 

they younger confused hippies will learn more of it when they are older and can actuly care about actavism and understand peace

 

I remember Kent State and the students that died. We didn't base our identity on a cliche. We stood for individual rights, no matter who the president was. Some of my friends never came back from Vietnam, some never survived the drugs they tried. I was an artist, I was too involved in my art to risk my life or cognitive skills experimenting with them(drugs). Some of the young'ns here think that's the only cool thing going on. Think again.

It was National Guard that killed unarmed students, on a college campus. I suppose a lot of you think the marines didn't kill innocent civilians in Iraq? I have a bridge I could sell you.

Put guns in the hands of half trained testosterone charge youngsters and what can you expect.

Think those young people will come back whole from this? Think the administration will support them and offer them medical support?...talk to some veterans of other conflicts and see what sort of support they received. Lobbying on behalf of those misguided souls that upped and went and fought in this stupid conflict should be where our efforts are expended. But instead the administration balances the budget by cutting their support.

I support those young people by trying to convince them not to enlist.

 

No, what's ironic is that non-conservatives seem to think conservatives are insignificant and stupid! It is the left that is spreading the hate, making a mockery of the hippy philosophy.

No, my support for peace is sincere because of my good sense to support a war that promises to ensure peace in the future more than any other war that has ever been fought. I agree that there is a LOT that needs to be done to make this country a better place. And I question Bush just like everyone else, and just because I arrive at different conclusions does not make me any less intelligent than anyone else. Those who think so are the one's who should not be here, in my opinion.

 

As I recall, the "hippie philosophy" is to protest war. Hate for something that causes death is generally acceptable to reasonable people.

No, actually that is the "mockery of the hippie philosphy" (IMO)
War is war, no matter how you "market" it.

I don't question your intelligence. Your presence here is not in question either. (free speech..remember?) I was just saying that if you have a problem being disagreed with, maybe you should make your point in a more conservative-friendly environment. You are in the midst of many that oppose war..period. (no loopholes)

Just for the record, I've never called myself a hippie. (out of respect for the ones that actually participated in the peace movement of the 60's) I was too young at the time, but have always supported that part of the culture.
I realize that you were reared in the conservative culture, and you obviously support it. I respect your right to do so.
I do not have to agree with your conclusions. You don't have to agree with mine. (free speech..)

 

Fair enough.

I know war is war, but I cant help thinking beyond to the future and what good can come of this terrible and sad time for Iraq. (And I think a lot can.) I do not think this war is going to "end all wars" of course, but I think it could be the beginning of the end of the Islamic jihad, which, no matter which side is really to blame, should stop for the sake of peace. And I just hope and believe this war could make that possible.

I dont have a problem with being disagreed with, I guess I'm just passionate for what I believe in, and I know others are too, and I respect that as long as their attitude doesn't become nasty (which yours wasn't, and I appreciate that ).

 

I'm just as passionate about my "philosophy". I've supported it for over 30 years. I may hate certain people's viewpoints, but I don't hate the person.