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Discussion in 'Poetry' started by rambleON, Jan 30, 2011.

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  1. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    Look man, no one is going to take you seriously as a writer if you can't take the negitivity that comes with publicity on the chin like a man.

    You want to be heard, well it comes at a price. Shake it off and focus on your work if you truly believe you're cut out for it.

    Maybe take into account that your method isn't perfect. After all you are only a lost child raised in the cold lonly dark of this mortal coil. You are not above critique.
     
  2. rambleON

    rambleON Coup

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    you know what Imaginary Being you are an ignorant judgmental person. I have absolute zero sexual attraction to underage girls. I wrote this piece because i have a deep imagination that allows me to tap in to things outside my own experience. and this is called INSIGHT. Why don't you calm down and admit the work was a controversal to some and leave all the finger pointing to your low self esteem--and more importantly leave your ideas of what should be written about to better, more capable writers.

    yes, I write what I know. I can imagine, with keen insight and observatoin, almost and human condition. As I'm sure most writers here can.


    thanks.
     
  3. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I'm not trying to cause an argument here whatsoever, but that's calling the kettle black.
     
  4. rambleON

    rambleON Coup

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    Quote me where I said I was above critique, you won't be able to. So stop making up shit and read exactly what was said by me. I don't mind crit, so long as it is not mixed up in the reviewers morality and is free of insults baised on their preference of acceptable writing.

    Truth is, people , the haters who read this assume I'm the character in the work , which I can tell you is upsetting. When they should take it as a work of fiction. People act like this is the first time they read a disturbing work.

    They must live in a bubble and what have you not.
     
  5. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    I'm sorry, you don't have the proper vision of things to be the kind of writer I can respect in any form. But reguardless of my personial feelings, I apoligise if I've been in anyway harassing in expressing my views.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Hint: We find those most agreeable whom we agree with.
     
  7. rambleON

    rambleON Coup

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    I can care less who respect me and who doesnt. I treat people how I expect to be treated and I feel that many here can take a lesson in this basic principle. You came right out of the gates more ignorant than what ive seen in a long time. This is a work of fiction, meant to rise eyebrows. I like doing shit like this form time to time. What you fail to understand that this was a topic I chose to write about from a list provided in writing league I am in .

    Again, sorry you did not like it. But trust your personal moraility does not set the standard any writer should write to. In fact, it's up to the writer to decide what, when , who and how that do anyting, despite the taste of their readers.

    I will never limit my potential work to the taste of you ro anyone eles and I would expect the same from you or anyone.

    Proper vision? what do you mean? That i can defend ignorant accusations and defend against self rightous cencorship ?

    Pardon the spell, im frantic right now.
     
  8. rambleON

    rambleON Coup

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    I'm not sure I understand this. Can you please write it to me in another way?

    I really respect your insight and words.
     
  9. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    If your writing is convincing it is because someone agrees with the point of view or the subject, or the idea behind the words.

    If it is not convincing it is sometimes because they don't agree with the subject matter or the writer's reasons for writing it.


    Writing usually isn't convincing just because of the way the writer writes it, it is in the way each audience member interprets it or misinterprets it.
     
  10. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    What you project onto the world is what you percieve from it.
     
  11. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    In the case of SS. If you feel he is missing some level of understanding, then
    calling him ignorant is counter productive. What is called for is greater understanding from you to compensate. You could say, I see what you all are saying, (agreement), but this exercise is a work of creative fiction and the fact that you are repulsed by the images, (agreement), is very flattering, as I have achieved with my word craft what I desired.
     
  12. Meliai

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    so there's that.

    Look man, its a rarity that I want to do something to discourage rather than encourage a budding artist, but your arrogance, hostility, and self righteous bullshit has pushed me a little too far.

    You are not that great of a writer. You aren't really great at all, actually. You're decent. I've read all the shit you've posted all over these forums, the pages and pages of rhymes. You think they make you a rhyme oracle? I always took those words as exercises to improve your rhyming. There is no cohesion to them, nothing to any of them that will make you the next shining star in the literary world. They come across as practice, which I can only assume they are. I would like to see you put those rhyme practice exercises into something cohesive and concise, something a little less elementary than the ABAB rhyme scheme you used in this poem. The rhyme scheme in this poem is not good. It did not come off like you did it purposely to make the rhythm seem clunky, it just comes off like you're going for the easiest possible rhyme scheme.

    Being able to string some rhyming words together does not a great poet make.

    You are not the next T.S. Eliot. Maybe if you improved your attitude, you would be able to see that your writing could use some improvement. I think only when you bring yourself down a few notches and get some humility will you begin to make the improvements in your writing that could possibly make you a great writer one day.

    Even the most respected writers of all time had their critics, ya know.

    sorry for being harsh, but i can't stand artists who get all arrogant about their work. The most talented person I've ever met in my life is also the most humble person I've ever met. You should aspire to be like that because your attitude is a real turn-off. I'm sure all those people in the literary world who respect you so much are a little turned off by your cockiness as well.
     
  13. rambleON

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    ^yes, thedope. That is exactally how I wanted to handle it and I did in the beginning. But still I have to call a spade a spade. To my defense I think many can agree that ignorance has been filling this thread in almost all the replies for the people who hate on it, simply because the subject matter struck them the wrong way. And insted of being polite about it they accuse me of things complete unknown to them at the time.

    So really I'm not being out of line and am calling it how I see it.

    But yes, this is a complete 100% work of fiction, and as I said already this work was originally written with an adult woman as the girl, but in the end I edited a few lines to work in a young teen.

    And aside form that, pedo writings and images are rampant in our pop culture in shows like 'to chatch a predator' and other fillings in news papers and magazines. so this should come across as another one of 'those things'

    so it is what it is.

    In the end, I know the work cold of been better, but considering how I wrote it and with the treatment of the narrator I gave , I did what I wanted to with the piece. Nothing more or less. SO in that sense it was a complete job. I wanted to ruffle feathers.

    And i wanted feedback on the composition of the work, and deff. not feedback slamming my character or what kind of person I am.
     
  14. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    But it must be expected to some degree. You do this to others, is it not expected that you'd receive the same treatment back?


    As thedope says "the measure you give is the measure you get."
     
  15. rambleON

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    See here we go again, you are assume I think I'm the next big thing or even the next great. I know what I am and I know what others out there do. I'm different. And take a look at my flow in the work posted here, it is SO not ABAB. in fact if you examine it closely you will find it is rather intricate. yes i have room for improvement and yes Im cocky and arrogant. So what? these are personally traits and people do have them. SO stop acting like it is something of a flaw. I don't care if you respect me. I know I have a talent and that's between me and myself. not you.

    And I am a great writer. Ive been only writing for three years this upcoming April 16. I dont care if you are on board with that concept or not. Simple fact is that you are in a conflict of interest when it comes to assessing my skill because you are mad or upset by the way I treated you.

    the thing is, what you read from me posted here are very quick treatments in practice. What I have fostering in my next upcoming works is going to take months for me to pull of with plenty of quite writing. The best is yet to come.

    again, I dont act like the next so and so or who and which simply because I know I'm me, know what I can offer and know what I can do. Just how you are.

    if you don't like me fine. I once liked you but you are crit'in my stuff with a sour taste in your mouth, making me feel like a pedo for writing the cords of the human experiance. Writing outside of comfort is a good practice. I suggest you work on it.

    thanks for reading.
     
  16. OneLifeForm

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    People then, should act as if they are above you because

    You think they are below you.

    You need to take a lesson from your words.
     
  17. rambleON

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    I agree with you lunaverse. Wise words. and very level headed. I think we both can agree that the treatment initally given to me concerning this work was out side the realm of the writing itself and more into the morailty of me for writing such a dark aspect of human behavior.
     
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