Your summer "List"

GBL isn't illegal exactly but it is list one as a precussor to GHB. Which means they can raid you on suspision of making GHB. Unlikely but the cops would love an excuse and while the wouldn't find GHB I still would be in alot of trouble for other things. Perhaps I'll get someone who will have it shipped to their house. Oh and 4 meo-pcp is on my list forgot it earlier.

 

I'd like to try shrooms and dimethocaine/larocaine/DMC.... but can't find either. Phooey.

 

Why can't you find dimethocaine? It sucks but a million vendors sell it.

The man who does not google has no advantage over the who can not google-Mark Twain (paraphrase)

 

Ketamine and molly combo?

 

i can't wait till i get my 2c-e and 4-aco-dmt.. will be fun indeed

 

Why does ketamine get such a negative stereotype if it really is a drug of choice amongst these types of communities? Can someone give me some insight on it?

 

Combine the 2

 

among what communities? The rave community likes it alot and embraces it ive heard its big in the gay community to, ive only taken it once in the presence of a gay person that ive known and he did not enjoy the effects.

 

still couldn't decide between the two, eh?

 

oh i plan to.. this weekend i should be combining 2c-c, 2c-e, 4-aco-dmt, and hydrocodone. you wish you were me haha

 

I would take out the opiates..
I've never done opiates really, but it seems like a heavy psych combo + opiates would make for strange things.

I mostly wish I was you, though

 

i really kind of do..luckily my 4-aco-dmt should be arriving pretty soon. i plan on taking it with the rest of my 2c-p (like 12mg left) at some point

 

Does anyone else have experience with the combination of 2c-x substances and opiates? I've tried it once with 2c-c and it was pretty enjoyable, but 2c-c is a very mild and mainly euphoric psych.

I was thinking that taking 20 mg of hydrocodone may make the come up easier, or the comedown more relaxing.

 

i wish i could answer that for you. i am not a fan cuz imo ketamine is only a drug. if u get wat i mean by calling it a "drug". there are psychedelic tools and then there are plain old "drugs". being a part of the rave and festy communities ive watched more than a handful of friends and peers become total k tards and it saddens me. that is y it gets a bad rap. its used by a lot people who are not very smart in the way that they do their drugs and therefore create a bad image for it.

 

As most of us, I enjoy the recreation of stimulating the intellect, not the superego, with psychs. So, I believe I understand. thanks for the insight

 

I was waiting for you to respond before I commented any further. As someone who used a fair amount of ketamine it does indeed stimulate intellect, its left me dumbfounded after the first couple of times in a way few substances can do. I do agree with hippified rcer that its a drug , but in a much different way than other drugs of abuse. The common notion with most abused drugs is you use them to feel normal, ketamine is used to escape normality. Its a drug that wears a psychedelic mask. Its has a sinister allure that can give one a near death/peak experience without any of the pain, force, or introspection provided by that of actual experience or of a true psychedelic. Its certainly mindbending but pretty shallow.

 

Interesting. I understand what you mean as well as I can without actually doing it. I do want to add, though, many of the psychs I've done I have a similar sentiment towards.

 

What and why?

 

no haha i have the money for both, it seems like an interesting combo.

 

Probably gona dabble in some 2c-i, 2c-b, 2c-e, LSD, and possibly some mescaline if the notion takes me to do a lot of work to extract or prepare a rancid drink. Unfortunately though, my psych usage has encountered a setback as one of my significant relationships is in flux. The waters are a bit unsettled and I figure I probably should wait for things to calm down before I rock the boat