Your Take On Windows 10 (And 8)

They are just tools, used to hack the activation mechanism. If parts of it were written by some of the Microsoft Devs it wouldn't surprise me one bit ... they aren't malware. Windows 10 is a free operating system, so if you already have windows ... it isn't piracy by definition. You can download Win10 from microsoft's website for free.

 

The windows 10 upgrade is free to anyone who currently runs an activated, legit version of 7 or 8.1 on their system.

It is meant to be initiated from your current desktop, it loads up the required files from the 3gb downloaded setup folder and dials back to the activation service to check thay your current windows is genuine, then your system shuts down, and starts installing windows 10, but unlike a custom install, this simply over writes your old OS and shoves it into a "windows.old" folder for 30 days so you can revert back if you dont like 10.

You can chose to include data and programs, just programs, or to remove everything, but your Hdd is not formatted, and your windows 10 will have an automatic activation set in place in your bios and on the activation service, so if you ever re-install 10 on your machine in the future, you don't need a key.

Some people are posting up links to ways of getting this free activation set in place simply by doing a fresh custom install, therefore avoiding the time wasting upgrade, but personally, the upgrade is pretty painless, and when it finishes and you check that the activation is set, i advise everyone to grab the windows 10 ISO and create a bootable USB stick and run a clean install immediately after, so you get a freshly formatted drive prior to installing.

Of coarse you backup all your files first, just as you have mentioned.

That Activation tool i got from your link did throw up an alert from defender, but oddly not from my Malwarebytes Pro

 

or you can get the iso and then do a clean install using the key that came with your win 7/8, a helluva a lot easier

 

That does not work for everyone, it certainly does not work for anyone i know who is in the computer business here in australia, and certainly not for me on any machines i tried it on.

We have attempted a clean install from boot without doing an upgrade first, and when you try to enter your 7 or 8.1 key during setup, it does not accept it, it wants a windows 10 key for it to continue, so i skipped the serial key step, and got to the windows 10 desktop, and not activated, and if i try to activate using a 7 or 8.1 key, still doesnt work.

This is the method most people use here in Australia, and it is so easy to do, and this apparently will work, but microsoft will no doubt create something that will block this from working.

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/30/how-to-clean-install-windows-10-directly-without-upgrade/

During an upgrade started from the desktop of 7 or 8.1, you skip the serial key box because you dont need a key, 10 will activate automatically when you get to the 10 desktop because it works off the activation of your current windows installation.

The same applies with a custom install after you did the upgrade, you skip the serial key part as well.

 

yeah, defender calls it a "hacktool" .. you just have to tell it to allow and it won't bother you anymore. I scanned it with avgscan on my linux box before using it on a Win10 machine and it said it was clean. Microsoft just throws up that alert cuz they know what it's for

 

OK after some more digging, it seems that some older builds of Windows 10 that were made available for download using the Media Creation Tool would not accept a Win 7 or 8.1 key during setup, or at the end of installation if you skipped the Key part during setup.

I have the version 1511 - build 10586 Theshold 2 ISO and i tried a custom install on a laptop yesterday, and it did accept a win 7 key during installation, and it was activated when i got to the desktop and did a critical windows update.

The other "Hack" that i posted in my previous post apparently dows work as well.

 

Yeah, I knew it works on some builds before I posted it. Not new to the computer game

I read an article that said the microsloth made that change in October due to lots of complaints about "Why the hell do I have to do an upgrade, then wipe my machine so I can do a clean install!!!"

 

keys are easy to come by. not all of them work.

http://pastebin.com/eWxM5au8

this one works on the latest image (unless they've put out a new one since about a week ago)

 

I'm somewhat disappointed that in Win10, some very useful command line tools are disabled by default such as telnet.

To enable telnet in Win10, you will need to run this script, as a user with elevated privilages (administrator user):
enable_telnet.bat

 

Just playing around on windows 10 this weekend on a spare hard drive. Anyway I was under the impression that disabling "Forced Updates" would be a complex endeavour. I imagined that with all the stink about it that Microsoft had blocked access to the services list. Nope, it's really freaking easy to turn off the automatic updates. Even the home version has access; you just go to start menu, right click on File manager, select Manage, expand the Services list, go down to windows update, right click - Stop, right click - Properties - Disable. I also disable Windows Search and Windows Backup services. Also if you're on a wifi connection you can just go to your network advanced settings and select Metered Connection and this will stop updates from downloading, you will get notifications that updates are available.

Turning off the update service also does not stop individual apps from updating. I got a message that "OneDrive" was updating. Some cloud storage bullshit app I presume. I immediately went to disable it. Right click - uninstall I believe was the option, it took me to the remove programs and features screen where there was no option to disable it. Looks like you have to do a gpedit to kill the damn thing. Other than that it doesn't seem too crippled. I really have zero interest in any of their crap services, Cortana, what a joke, taking up half the taskbar like you're any use to me, DELETE! I'll only be using this as my main OS after I'm forced to do so. After Microsoft pays off enough third parties to block their old OS's. You TOO, Googte? Their check is in the mail, I'll bet.

 

Yeah. you can turn off a bunch of shit in Win 10... but it doesn't work. The OS does whatever it wants anyways.

 

While there are background tasks that will take more hacking to remove, disabling update service does seem to work and stays disabled after reboot. I did a side by side comparison of two systems, disabled got absolutely no update hold ups on reboot while a system running stock services got tons of updates installed. Also boots and runs a lot slower with HD constant activity.

 

Well I've been playing with win10 again for a week or so. Was alright until somehow the Widows Update service re-enabled itself somehow. I knew it screwed me sideways when I went to boot up and it took 10 to 15 minutes of installing updates and rebooting. After that it runs like shit, slow booting and launching programs for the first couple minutes. Also if you want a dual boot setup, the win10 bootloader is a fuck around, reboots the PC to launch win7 or anything instead of just loading it from the menu. I guess there is a fix for that though.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_wintp-insider_perf/dual-booting-with-the-windows-10-bootloader/da3ac7b7-2c49-4f3c-b1f3-6e98ee36db7a?auth=1

 

I like Windows 10 mostly because I like those pop-ups in the action center that everyone else seems to hate. It's nice to see when I've got new facebook or twitter messages.

Microsoft Edge works a lot faster on my computer than other browsers do, too, so now I am using both it and Firefox.

 

Wincows 10 sucks. It's slow as hell. The same computer (with only one HDD) and:
• Wincows 10 - Visual Studio 2015 needs between 30 and 50 seconds to start.
• Windows 7 - Visual Studio 2015 needs 10 seconds tops to start and these 10 seconds are only in heavy situations. When everything's fine (like in 99% of the time), VS2015 starts in under 5 seconds.
So I intend to stick with Windows 7 until they release Windows 11.

 

Don't hold your breath....

 

You tell me which Windows comes after the expiration date of Windows 10...

 

MS already announced this was going to be their last version. From here on out it's going to be considered a "service" and will likely go subscription... $7 bucks a month has been mentioned.

 

A service? Its software ffs! Have these guys at microsoft forgotten what the role of software is in a computer system?

 

No... They are hoping the public has forgotten the role of software in a computer system. Which wasn't hard, most never knew to begin with.