You're all going to hate me for saying this, but...

Discussion in 'Music' started by John221, Mar 18, 2005.

  1. dedhead95

    dedhead95 The Wizard of Rhythm

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    I know what youre saying. But they write some sweet songs. I agree most of their early stuff is really "generic" but it's all good in my ears.
     
  2. groovygirl

    groovygirl Member

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    thank you, their later stuff was the best and i respect every ones opinion even if i fell that its wrong. but befor you say that you dont like some one you should know what your talking about (not to be ofensive)
     
  3. Amanda's Shadow

    Amanda's Shadow Flower Child

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    I love the Beatles bc they remind me of my daddy :)
     
  4. groovygirl

    groovygirl Member

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    awwww my daddy listens to heavy meatle so...
     
  5. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    Occassionally I have an early Beatles moment. The latter stuff is pretty interesting. Experimentation with various sounds, layering in the studio, jacking around with polyphonic sound, etc... They helped to pioneer some of the techniques which have been improved upon today, so yeah, I dig em'. (greatest band ever, well......)
     
  6. Shell

    Shell Member

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    The first song I ever learned to play on the piano was a Beatles song ( I Want To Hold Your Hand.... I think)! I won't swear that they are the best band in all of histroy but I enjoy their music!
     
  7. HonkyTonk

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    Sgt. Peppers=Pet Sounds ripoff

    THey weren't nearly as innovative as people say, they just followed the flow of musical tastes.
     
  8. yamamamo

    yamamamo Member

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    I like their post '65 stuff very much, they were a very creative band. Not the best band ever but they were extremley innovative. HonkyTonk, Sgt Pepper was similar to Pet Sounds but its most certainly not a rip-off. Even if it was, read the leaflet in the re-mastered version and you'll see how influenced Brian Wilson was by Rubber Soul. And how exactly did Revolver and The White Album copy musical tastes of the time? It may not seem like it now but Revolver changed music forever.
     
  9. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I used to love them, but...

    Were they the greatest band ever? Possibly.. no other band put out as many albums as the Beatles and still maintained a 100% essential-album ratio... ah fuck math :D

    But what I'm saying is that The Beatles released 12 studio albums... and all of them are amazing. They were the first band that released actual songs on their albums, instead of just a hit single and 9 filler songs. If it weren't for them, I doubt bands like The Beach Boys, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, and so many others would've nearly became as great as they eventually became. The only semi-bad song they recorded throughout 12 albums was "Maggie May".. I think anybody who knows music will agree, but it still wasn't a bad song, only by The Beatles' standards.

    They are probably the greatest band, but they are quite overrated. Lennon/McCartney weren't anything special at all when it came to song writing... except for probably their '66-'68 albums. Brian Wilson, Reed/Morrison/Cale, Richards/Jagger were all better than John and Paul.

    They were the top pop-rock band their entire career... until Pet Sounds came out. Tho they came back with Sgt. Pepper and quickly crushed the uprising. :D

    George Harrison was a very great guitarist and songwriter, and I think that his guitar-playing for The Beatles is heavily underrated.. on the later albums, he could be mistaken for Hendrix.

    I've been finding all Beatles stuff except Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour hard to listen to, after listening to bands who's songwriting skills are far superior to The Beatles. Lennon/McCartney were definitely not the greatest songwriters of all-time.

    They were probably also the most innovative band of the 60's, and one of the most original. The Beach Boys, The Stones, The Experience, and The Floyd would probably not have released the great 60's albums that they did if it weren't for The Beatles.

    For their solo stuff... I think Paul had the best career (counting only the '70s... who knows what John would've done if he were alive throughout the synth crap of the '80s).


    But two bands that come to mind that could challenge The Beatles as the greatest band of all-time are The Velvet Underground and The Stooges... in that neither of those bands ever recorded a bad song or album (not counting VU's Squeeze, since it isn't even considered a real VU album). Both bands had better songwriters than The Beatles, they just never recorded as much as them.
     
  10. HippieFlowerGirl67

    HippieFlowerGirl67 Banned

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    The Beatles And The Doors Are The Best Bands In The World!!!!!!!
     
  11. DrSpaceman

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    I don't idolize them, but then again, you weren't there in 1964 when they revolutionized top 40 radio by reintroducing us to the kind of music we liked before it started getting so lame. They opened the door for the flood of other music, starting with the likes of Stones and the Animals and leading up to bigger and better things, like Cream. Sure, they also let in some doofi like Freddy and the Dreamers, but nobody's perfect.

    After several albums of covers (including some Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry) and their own pop-oriented compositions, they evolved, starting with Rubber Soul, and they introduced new kinds of instrumentation. Brian Jones followed Harrison's lead in picking up the sitar, for instance.* Their White Album is probably my favorite with its take on a variety of other groups (e.g., the Beach Boys in "Back in the U.S.S.R." and Blue Cheer in "Helter Skelter").

    In the early days, Paul McCartney seemed to me to be the embodiment of the Beatles, but after their breakup, I could see that it was John Lennon who had the greater talent as a composer. The Beatles were one of hundred, maybe thousands of revolutionary bands, better than some, on a par with others, and taking a back seat to many more, but they played a big role in blowing the lid off the stagnating music scene.

    * If it hadn't been for Harrison, few of us would even know who Ravi Shankar is, let alone space out to his ragas. Yeah, I know, he's not for everybody. Once when someone suggested I put on something heavy and I suggested Shankar, he said, "Well, not quite that heavy!"

    Oh yeah, I almost forgot ...
    Hair was mostly flattops and DA's and butches until "The Beatle Haircut" came along. Sure, maybe the early hippies, folkies, and beatniks had predated them in that respect, but you didn't see much long hair on John Q. Public from Anytown, U.S.A. before they came along.
     
  12. DrSpaceman

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    Hey man, if you think Led Zeppelin sucks, you haven't heard their first album (Led Zeppelin), or the second (Led Zeppelin II), which is like unto it. Their best stuff was done when they strayed the least from their blues roots. (I also have a copy of a bootleg entitled "Live on Blueberry Hill" from the same time period.)

    The Yardbirds stifled the creativity of at least two other great guitarists (Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck) before Jimmy Page came along and reorganized the fast-fading band into Led Zeppelin.
     
  13. groovygirl

    groovygirl Member

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    led zeplin is an ok band i dont really like them but i dont hate them... ya know
     
  14. Boss_d.j.

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    wow... i am greatly dissapointed. the beatles are maybe not the greatest band, but their members are far greater than the sum of their parts. i think john lennon is god, and i am not just saying that like many ignorant folk around us would... i have him and his bandmembers to thank for music. period.
     
  15. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    songwriting-wise, lennon/mccartney werent ALL that great, george harrison was the genius of them all.

    but they are one of the 10 greatest bands of all-time... definitely not the best, though. i think that can be narrowed down to the band, the velvet underground, the stooges, and nirvana (the 90s band). :eek:
     
  16. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    eek, grateful dead too.
     
  17. bobdylan08

    bobdylan08 Member

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    people like them because theyre lyrics are great and its hard to find a song that doesnt make you happy. the reason they are considered the best is because they changed rock and roll from something that teenagers dance to to an art form. they were the first to use feedback on a guitar, the first to use backwords music on a recording and were simply the most innovative band ever. when they came onto the scene most bands were just a group of guys harmonizing and when they left their were bands like Led Zeppelin. This isn't all because of them but the beatles were the most experimental along with jimi hendrix
     
  18. Oh So strangE indeeD

    Oh So strangE indeeD Member

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    i admire their harmony styles from the early days, and their creative blending with the drugs later on.
     
  19. USNavyDeadHead

    USNavyDeadHead Member

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    I love the Beatles but I can understand what you're saying. I feel the exact same way about Led Zepplin. Yeah I like them but they just dont DO it for me. As for why, well why does anyone like anything? I guess that they just reach out and touch my soul.
     
  20. Wonder Girl

    Wonder Girl rhapsody in pink

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    I've never been heavy into the Beatles. I respect them and their music,and I do like their music...but it's just not something I'm crazy for.
    Led Zeppelin on the other hand,is a band I'm crazy for....so it all just boils down to how it feels to each person.
     

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