And who wrote the book saying this? Jews. How convenient to be able to write yourself into a superior world position for all time. The very idea of a chosen people is one of the things that makes Jews have such a hard time in the world. When you proclaim God loves YOU more than somebody else, you're already setting the table for racism. This has been going on for how many thousands of years now? Zionism found a warm home in this religion. Had the Khazars not converted to this faith, Judaism may have very well blinked out by now. YOU need to understand that the Jews of today are not the Jews of the bible. And the religion of Judaism iself has nothing in common with zionism. http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html Don't support this evil empire, DESPITE what your religious beleifs as a Christian may tell you. Christian zionists are also a problem but for different reasons. x
Most religions think that they are the chosen. The same thing applies in us the Jews. I' wait for Xexon's witty answer in the fact that Palestine was never a independent nation. Is history only a Zionist program also? It can be called Palestine from the decade of 1920 until 1948, but it was officially the British Mandate of Palestine. The League of nations had the more force until 1923, then became complete British force.
Palestine was never a "nation" because it's a region, not a state. A collection of ancient kingdoms. "Israel" is also composed of the same. You could have just as easily been called Judah instead of Israel. But you cannot belittle the people who come from there just because they're not Jewish. And thats what you as Israeli Jews have done. You have set yourselves above these indigenous people, run them off the land and destroyed their culture. Even your national flag is a racist symbol. The Star of David serves nobody but Jews. What about the non Jewish Israelis? Are they lesser citizens because they're not Jewish? Zionism says so. Jews only roads. Jews only settlements. Jews only schools. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1374/is_/ai_83794488 Don't keep asking for my taxpayer dollars if you intend to support this racist nation. I say cut the cord with US aid to Israel. And I'm not alone. Not anymore. x
I have several arabic friends. Actually, this Israeli AGAINST the Arab thing you claim is continued here, is exaggerated exceptionally. I invite you in order to come here in Israel yourself and see that it's not how the unilateral Anti-Zionist Internet says this is.
My charges against Israel stand. This is not something that just started. Its gone on for decades now. You may not be a part of it, but it doesn't mean that it doesn't go on without your knowledge. You sound young. I take it you haven't served in the IDF yet? When you do, you'll see firsthand what I'm talking about. The IDF is known for it's harsh treatment of non Jews. x
No. But, I know more persons in the IDF than I can measure. Their abundance they are not Jewish. The main problems between the Israeli relations are found in Hevron. I was stoned and in both two sides in the hedge: Stoned from the Jews because I am not Jewish enough. Stoned from the Arabs because I am too Jewish. This is where Jewish IDF is harassed daily and forced in order to do their work. A lot IDF there exist as Hevron citizens radical as they hide behind soldier's suit s. Sad, but true. 70 km northern it is abu-Gosh. Such problems do not exist there.
I understand. I grew up in the old south, Alabama. I saw racism all around me every single day but I never participated in it myself. I just can't be mean to people like that. People like you who are caught in the middle are the best hope Israel has for change. You MUST change Israel. If you fail, Israel and all that you know will be destroyed someday. I don't want Israel to be wiped off the map. I just want the people to change their government so it treats ALL Israelis as equals. x
Xexon, are you just an implant to promote the controversy between Hegel and Bertrand Russel about essential perception of the Earthly bound Quality of the human surrounding Past. Maybe Kublai Khan and China have a similar inequality (inequity) Problem?
Actually, I approach this subject from a spiritual level rather than an intellectual one. Racism has no place in spirit. It's a thinking man's game. Or lack thereof. I only work on people's minds because because thats what runs interference with the spirit. Spirit can't see skin color or bloodlines. My aim is to connect people with that part of themselves. x
Man, i hate to get on your bad side, 'cuz the truth is, i really like you and your posts, for the most part, BUT, Wellllllll ~ humans didn't write it. GOD did. GOD made men write what He wanted us to know. No one is claiming that God loves Jewish people more than He does the rest of us ~ THAT's why Jesus came, specifically FOR all of us. Why? Because God loves ALL of us, the same. Never fear ~ i would never support evil; however, i don't think you or i could imagine what it is like to have to constantly defend our homeland, our sacred places. If you'll pick up a Bible and browse through the Old Testament (which is the age that Jewish folks live in), you'll see that God has no problem, whatsoever, with war or killing another human, in order to preserve His people and keep them pure. i don't think that's an easy row to hoe, to tell you the truth, and i sure can't tell them how to comport themselves in the situation they're in, nor give any useful advice on how they should handle things, because i'm not Jewish. But, if ALL of the Jewish people become filled with enough righteous indignation to start absolutely kicking ass and taking names? i would NOT stand in their way. THAT would be standing against God, and i won't do it (not that i could ever hope to be able TO).
Oh, my. If you don't have any concept of the message that the Bible delivers, the history it covers, the basic fact that there are two Testaments, the Old Testament / the New Testament, and that each one is the basis of separate religions, well, you've just lost all credibility. Sorry. Just saying...
Hey Xexon, as far as you can gather, why did G-d make Jews and non-Jews? Are we supposed to be similar or dissimilar? Do you think the non Jew is supposed to live by the Torah? I just ask because you come off as almost questioning G-d about the fact that he created the Jewish people, took them to a desert and gave them His holy will and wisdom to live by. Spirit can't see bloodlines? There's a reason we trace our lineage back to the 12 tribes. I go back to Moses' tribe, the Levites. And without that knowledge, why would I even consider trying to upkeep the Torah. G-d does know our bloodlines and souls are only drawn into bodies if they can handle the task. I know you're American and it is PC to say everyone is created equal, but if G-d wanted us all to be equal, He could have made us look the same. We're different for a reason and we should celebrate our differences, not hide behind in some distorted world view that we are all the same. How boring would that be?
Hmmm... Athiests/Agnostics... Have YOU ever thought?... Maybe a ten billion to one chance of just ONE thing happening that could have explained ALL of life on Earth is just a little out of the ballpark on the odds? That perhaps science just does it's best to try to explain our world? That you are every bit as "religious" about your science as we are about our God? And since your god hasn't been able to really explain much, well, good luck with that.
Ummm... you do realize that the reason the Jewish people are in the situation they are in right now is because, when God told them to go into the land He gave them, He also told them to kill EVERYONE ~ men, women, children, the elderly, the disabled ~ everyone. They didn't do that, and have lived at war for, how long did you say? i mean, i'm no Bible expert, but you really need some sort of understanding of the Book, and the Messages, before you can really, you know, have a conversation about it...
Friend, I was raised as a southern baptist in Alabama. I understand your angle very well, I just see it as religious mythology. The kind I was glad to distance myself from many years ago. My perception of what God "is" is not the personal God you were brought up to know. I can't hang my troubles on anyone or anything other than myself. Fearing some bearded dude with his finger on the smite button is so much ballyhoo really. A true spiritual path is the abilty to accept responsibility for one's own actions. I can't say the devil made me do it or God talks to me. There isn't but one energy at work here. Because I am intimate with this singular consciousness, I have no problem plowing through other people's beliefs that say there are many. We are all forms made from the same substance. We will all return to that formless state in the end. To be formless, where perception has replaced belief is to know "God" Anyone who raises a hand in anger will not see this kingdom. Anger is a form. A belief born from another belief. You can't take that with you. Religion poisons that chance. They too, are beliefs. Israel is a belief, born from another belief. And the hands raised in anger there cannot be counted. x
So you support separatism, the fragmentation of all the worlds people into these so-called "religions." I believe that all world religions are the work of Lucifer. You may be aware of the maxim, "Divide and conquer?" And, the Old Testament, New Testament, and the Koran are meant to be read as one book. So its really all the same, but its only our human mind, (and freewill) which has fragmented us to such bickering and infighting, so that we can be picked off, one by one, by the great deceiver, while deluding ourselves that we are doing the work of god, or are his "chosen people." Wouldn't children of god be more concerned with furthering world peace and ending world suffering? You sound delusional.
Nope, i actually support unity: the unity of heritage; the unity of beliefs; and the unity of nationalism, which, surprisingly enough, requires a complete nation, ALL of what your national inheiritance is and was. You know, we don't live like they do, where their religion IS their national identity, and when even the Qu'ran recognizes that Moses lead the Jewish people into the land of their inheritance, it's a little amazing (in a horrible sort of way) that the land that was promised to them is being kept from them. ... ermmm ... if you believe in Lucifer? You also believe in God. Excuse me?!?!? Uhhh, no, it's not all the same. God's chosen people were chosen by Him, as opposed to the people, themselves, making the decision to become one of His forgiven. As a child of God, i can tell you that i am most concerned with His laws, His will, and His revelations. The fact of the matter is that Lucifer, himself, wants "world peace," and a "one world religion" ~ to begin with... Oh, i'm sure i do... to you.
I never said I didn't believe in God. I'm just not a believer of Religion. And, why wouldn't all three of the books be meant together, if they are truly the word of God, shouldn't they be compatible?
The books, while overlapping, are not a Trilogy ~ each of the Bibles are different. Different numbers of books are included (e.g. Catholic Bible includes the Apocrypha), or the books are included in a different order. In addition, there are many different translations of the Bible, some of which are considered authoritative by some religions. Jewish people do not recognize Jesus as the Son of God, so the New Testament doesn't exist for them. Muslims believe that the scriptures of both Jews and Christians are God’s words to people through His prophets; however, what we know about God according to Islam is what God wants us to do. For Christians and Jews, the ultimate way that God reveals Himself is not in what He wants us to do, but through what He has done. While all are based, in whole or in part, on one Bible, the messages are completely different.
